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Four sailors, male sailors I should specify, have earnt the ire of the Navy and no less than Deputy Prime Minister Julia Gillard for trying to do the right thing by as many female sailors as possible. They've been sent home from HMAS Success in Singapore and are to be dealt with, so the Navy chiefs say, "swiftly and decisively". Castration?

There's nothing new about young fellows trying to bed, to use the word that has been favoured in reports about this matter, as many women as possible, although you might doubt that this is still the case as you look about you in Sydney at the salons and botox boutiques full of preening, pouting prancers.

There's nothing new, either, about young fellows making a contest of it, as these four young Navy sailors did. It seems that they assigned a dollar value to the various women on board their ship, in much the same way that the kudos varies for women everywhere, and that the most dollars went on female officers and lesbians, as you'd expect. The deal was, of course, to score as much as possible, and records were kept in a book called The Ledger. Could be the title of a great movie or mini series, eh!

As I write in my column in The Herald today, we had a few contests in my salad and single days. There was the first to score on the night, the race to a certain number for the month, the oldest, around the world, the old mother-daughter ... . Beer and status were always the winner's reward.

So what's the problem? Julia Gillard has urged that action be taken against the men she described as the perpetrators, the risk being, she says, that women may be deterred from seeking a Navy career. Might it be that such women would be worried they'd be willing to be bedded by a sailor?

Is it that the men are assumed to have led the female sailors to expect a relationship? Geez, men have been leading women into bed on the suggestion of a relationship for years, and one of the best ways to do this is to take them by the hand!

Is it that the men made a contest of it? Just as, I've pointed out, men have done so for eons. Hey, on their good days I associate with a number of society's male pillars who have what they call the 3G challenge, to bed three generations. Three generations of the one family is as treasured as poker's royal flush. Man must have a goal.

Would four women sailors have been sent home to Ms Gillard's fury if they'd been seducing as many men as possible? As many women as possible? Indeed, would the four male sailors have been sent home if they'd been giving the benefit of their manhood to as many other male sailors has possible?

Why is it that when we talk sex we talk men doing the sex, not women? Will the women who were an equal part of the sexual encounters on the HMAS Success be sent home for a swift and decisive and almost certainly sticky end?

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Jeff, Personally i think this whole deal has been blown right out of perportion. I agree with your collumn, what is bad about it? Sure, it makes women appear as a play thing, etc etc, but it does happen every where, every day. If you have morally high standards, it is wrong to do it, and for most people, such as JC, have grown out of this behaviour. BUT really, no laws have been broken and if the women had will power and said no, well, would we be talking about this now?
Posted by Nafe, 8/07/2009 10:18:48 AM
Perhaps this sort of thing goes on amongst insensitive, insecure, boorish males, but I've certainly never experienced anything like it among my circle of friends. What goes on in the bedroom is a personal matter that generally isn't discussed. If one of my mates was to brag about "bedding" a woman, we'd be probably enquire about her wellbeing and make sure he didn't just dump her afterwards. We certainly wouldn't slap him on the back and buy him a beer.
Posted by Jim M., 8/07/2009 10:29:45 AM
It's not the actual events described here that will deter women from seeking a Navy career. It's the ridiculous, petty, juvenile way it is being dealt with. Shouldn't the Commanding Officer in the field simply call these men AND women in, and instruct them to exercise discretion? What the heck is Julia Gillard involved for? Are military personnel allowed to have sex lives? If so - let the officer on the spot sort it. If we start nannying our war fighters, we're all screwed ;-)
Posted by Abundance, 8/07/2009 10:57:07 AM
I'm sure Jeff's wife enjoys his columns in the Herald but imagine she draws the line at her husband's blogs, but on the off chance she's a reader we would enjoy her insight into his halcyon ," salad and single " days and whether he discusses his choice of topics with her.
Posted by chaff and oats, 8/07/2009 11:13:54 AM
She did say this morning, chaff and oats, that she thought my Herald column today on this subject was relatively tasteful. Relative, you may ask as I did, to what? Relative to what she'd expected!
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 8/07/2009 11:53:20 AM
The real Julia Gillard is obviously an unstable personality. What does it say about her that she was going out with a male hairdresser?
Posted by Joe, 8/07/2009 11:15:04 AM
Well put Jeff!
Posted by cardiffresident, 8/07/2009 11:26:08 AM
interesting insight to your background there Jeff! whatever happened to the 'kiss and dont tell" part of male chivary ? I thought real men gain pleasure from pleasing women -those that want to do things just for their male counterparts pleasure may be a little "off center" of being real men? Like I live my male life to give my male friends pleasure ...uuuuuck. They are perhaps getting their purpose of being male confused by the fact that trans gender borders that seem to be getting all the more blurred by alcohol and male "bonding" rituals? all sounds a bit "gay behaviour" to me - males doing things to give other males pleasure. (sadly usualy in gangs at the expense of others so its also a bit cowardly). Now that is not to be confused with respecting the feelings and well being of others of all genders - thats called humanity.
Posted by king of the jungle, 8/07/2009 12:26:14 PM, on The Herald
Jim.M, you are a minority, do you by chance attend the mardi gra and comment on the "things" frocks? Who in hell would want to bed Julia Gillard, suppose there is one sick bloke out there :))
Posted by Bob.G, 8/07/2009 12:40:50 PM, on The Herald
Mother and daughter combo's, high five Mr Corbett! Now I understand your fixation with the subject of Izzo's street walkers. One tends to write about subjects close to their heart. Can you tell us, is there a book in the pipeline?
Posted by Chef Dude, 8/07/2009 1:15:02 PM, on The Herald
Not even a one-sided pamphlet, Dude.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 8/07/2009 1:31:14 PM
Thank you "king of the jungle" at least there is one male out there that speaks of the pleasure of women!! It sickens me that some males would put a price on the sex of a woman. I would love to see the prices for those sailors! Mind you i bet they are all ugly and wouldnt know the first thing about "pleasing a women"!
Posted by Gabe, 8/07/2009 1:25:08 PM, on The Herald
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