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Co-operative craziness

Is he crazy or visionary? The sourdough baker who's bread I have bought almost every Saturday he's baked it in Newcastle is trying to convert his new cafe bakery to a co-operative, and his enthusiasm is something to behold. Three months ago Warwick Quinton created the Sourdough Baker Cafe in Hunter St West, opposite Spotlight, and he's glowing with plans to form a co-operative of people passionate about food, about local food production using local ingredients, about sustainability before profit, and the idealism of it all shocks me. Does that mean, I asked him as I bought my Saturday loaf, that instead of putting the profit in his own pocket he'll be distributing it among members of the co-operative? Yes, he said, and I was lost for words.

The maths is neat. The co-operative's capital will be provided by 18 shares at $5000 each, and that can be paid in money or in labour, and at the end of each 12 months the profit will be distributed among these investors. That profit will be what's left of one third of the turnover after paying fixed costs. At the end of each day one third of the day's turnover will be distributed among the day's workers according to how many hours each has worked. And the final third will pay for materials.

Warwick (sourdoughbaker.com.au) says a co-operative is more transparent than a company, which is itself a form of co-operative, and that a co-operative's primary purpose is the common good rather than the bottom line, but it's too much for me I'm afraid. Perhaps it's because I didn't play team sport as a child (or as an adult), perhaps it's because I'm no visionary. Do you, like me, prefer profit in the pocket over the common good every day? Or have I missed the boat to the new social order?

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everyone is equal under my system. Its just that some are more equal than others? Actually i think a cooperative partnership is a good model and is as good as the cooperation that takes place. It maybe that personalities end up undermining a noble goal ?
Posted by josephstalin, 20/07/2010 9:35:29 AM, on The Herald
I like that, Mr Stalin - a co-operative is as good as the co-operation.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 20/07/2010 10:04:39 AM
The road to hell is paved with good intentions......maybe Warwick will strike it lucky (I hope so), but the odds are against him. Cooperatives are great in theory, but in reality they soon become dominated by those more concerned with their own self-interest than the interest of the collective. Cooperative, mutual society - no difference. Just look at what happened to NIB. There are always exceptions to the rule though - maybe this will be one. Ultimately, it's self-interest that drives humanity forward. Without it, we'd still be living in caves and frightened of the sun.
Posted by Scott Hillard, 20/07/2010 9:55:14 AM, on The Herald
"Common good over profit." ... right. Is there ANYTHING left that is Australian owned? Even all milk is ultimately foreign owned. I wish him all the best, but we are all clients of corporate whoredom.
Posted by Jaded, 20/07/2010 10:04:14 AM, on The Herald
Ah Jaded, the likes of you whinge incessantly about "foreign ownership" of "Australians" things. Odd that we don't hear a peep out of you when an Australian company buys London's water supply, or some airport in Europe, or some big hole in the ground in Mexico.
Posted by Scott Hillard, 20/07/2010 10:25:27 AM, on The Herald
sounds quite noble to me. Good Luck to him!!
Posted by leahkf, 20/07/2010 11:08:54 AM, on The Herald
You're a foodie, I think, Leah. Try his bread. He usually has two types, a normal sourdough and a cob loaf that has been fermented for much longer, about three days. They're both magnificent.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 20/07/2010 11:13:57 AM
Scott, Have you ever thought about hitting The Herald up for a Job as a columnist? Or maybe starting a blog on your thoughts on current issues. Would be a corker and i'm sure you would get quite a following.
Posted by Nafe, 20/07/2010 11:16:23 AM, on The Herald
Off topic slightly I know, but what is the obsession with sourdough bread. I like all sorts of breads, but sourdough doesn't impress me greatly. I think I'd rather eat a horse steak.
Posted by Directeur Sportif, 20/07/2010 11:16:43 AM, on The Herald
Good sourdough bread has a texture, a chewiness, that is not found in modern bread, much of which is so soft I call it pap. Real sourdough bread has a grain taste, too. Not all so-called sourdough bread, by the way, is sourdough or even good. Making sourdough bread is labour intensive and takes time, at least a day, and so it is not a viable proposition for big commercial bakeries. I like other breads too, and I'm especially fond of the long flat Turkish loaf, but I cannot eat the modern sliced white.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 20/07/2010 11:27:09 AM
SH - all news to me. I only read headlines.
Posted by Jaded, 20/07/2010 11:16:57 AM, on The Herald
I have only ever tried sourdough bread once and once was enough. I did not like the taste and the resulting flatulance turned me off for ever.
Posted by thinkitthrough, 20/07/2010 11:40:49 AM, on The Herald
Scott - as you are the blogs only identifiable poster (other than Jeff), I am intrigued - excuse the pun, what you do for a crust.
Posted by Doughboy Hollow, 20/07/2010 12:06:42 PM, on The Herald
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