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Displaced pigeons

We used to kill pigeons en masse with poisoned wheat, and that was just part of a responsible organisation's pest control. A decade ago that changed to sedating the pigeons with wheat laced with a sedative so that we could euthanise them humanely, although that's not to say that some don't still use the more direct means of control. Now, in 2010, it seems that we're correcting our attitude to pigeons again, if the concerns of Bondi Vet's Chris Brown and school teacher Claire Thomas are a fair indication.

In an interview in the most recent Herald Weekender magazine vet Brown, a Novocastrian, responds to the news that Merewether Surf House has just been demolished with immediate concern for the hordes of pigeons that lived in the derelict building. There could be, he suggested, an episode of Bondi Vet devoted to the finding of new accommodation for the homeless pigeons.

In a letter in the Herald this week Claire despairs that nothing has been done to rehouse the pigeons, which she has seen waiting forlornly on the site of the old surf house. Claire suggests erecting boxes nearby for the birds.

In my column in the Herald today I describe being accosted by a bird of their feather early this year as I released excess pigeons from my backyard dovecote into the main street of Sydney's Ashfield. When she asked what I was doing I told her that the white pigeons in my backyard in Newcastle had become too many and I'd brought them to Ashfield because I didn't think they could make it home and Sydney could always do with a few more pigeons. And as they flew off she screamed before telling the world, repeatedly, that I was truly truly disgusting.

I am the old generation and I see pigeons, other than those I want in my backyard, as feral pests I tolerate. This nutty woman and Claire at age 29 and Chris at 31 are the new generation, and evidently they believe people have a responsibility to house and even care for pigeons. I don't know how they arrive at that, and I don't know why or whether their reasoning would stop short of including Indian mynas and rodents in this new magnanimity. Their reasoning may be that pigeons rely on urban people therefore urban people have a responsibility to pigeons, although that's a leap I can't follow.

The attitude to animals has been changing over the course of a generation, and I see that as a good thing that has not yet gone far enough. Think battery hens, feed-lot cattle, constrained pigs. But is concern for evicted pigeons too far? Should we require the new surf house development to include flat ledges, exposed external rafters and a multitude of nooks and crannies to accommodate pigeons?

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While I agree with the ideals of treating animals humanely , when they become pests it is time to take the gloves off - since the drought has abated I have had several near misses and one direct hit with kangaroos on the John Renshaw Drive (my wife was lucky to survive a roo caused accident that forced her car into the path of a truck and then into a ditch) we need to cull them to keep numbers under control - same deal with the stinking bats in the park at Singleton where their destructive habits have decimated most of the trees but as they're protected the Council can do bugger all - as for pigeons , I'm sure they'll find somewhere else to crap all over.
Posted by smithy, 15/07/2010 6:06:25 AM, on The Herald
I could probably find something in my shed that would well and truly sedate them but, Hey, I am old hat too! On the serious side I bought a small property a few years ago off a fellow called Bob Appleby who I learned was one of NSW's most noted pigeon breeders. The word in the industry was if you had Appleby racing birds you had the best. He showed me a couple one day that he claimed were worth many thousands of dollars.It was told to me that he learn't his trade from the Second World War whilst serving with the Pigeon Corps (Did they really exist?)There were pigeon pens every where, heaps of old grain deposits, mice and copious amounts of very fast King browns. Interesting subject.
Posted by Bush Bunny, 15/07/2010 8:25:08 AM, on The Herald
What if there was nothing wrong with the surf house, where would the pidgeons be?. Why would they build flat areas for pidgeons to roost on, who will clean the crap up ? taxpayers. No doubt they will find some other place to crap all over, think of all the homeless people you could feed with a giant pot of pidgeon stew :))
Posted by Bobg, 15/07/2010 8:57:39 AM, on The Herald
Pigeons at the old BHP were killed off with poisoned wheat. Unfortunately, management didn't explain to everyone what was going on with the "cull". One new Australian, who fancied a bit of pigeon pie, thought the dead pigeons were like mana from heaven and was taking them home, cooking them up and eating them. He got very sick and apparently nearly died!! So, perhaps the humane thing to do is catch these healthy pigeons and eat them! I heard yesterday that a butcher in Western Australia is the first butcher in Australia to be selling horse meat. So, if horse meat can sell, why couldn't some old fashioned pigeon pie grace the dinner table?
Posted by judgedredd, 15/07/2010 9:34:47 AM, on The Herald
Jeff - seriously, what do YOU care about "battery hens, feed-lot cattle, constrained pigs". A lot (most) of people say they care, but still eat cage eggs and bacon (virtually all of which factory is factory produced). If people didn't buy it, "they" wouldn't make it.
Posted by Ron, 15/07/2010 10:11:48 AM, on The Herald
Over many years I've argued for a fair go for the animals we eat, and I've been highly critical of RSPCA compromises I see as disgraceful and NSW cruelty laws I see as hypocritical. When I have a choice I buy pastured beef and free-range chicken, although I do agree that I should do more.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 15/07/2010 12:59:45 PM
Pigeon excrement is actually highly toxic due to bacteria that forms in the droppings. When dry, it forms a dust which is hazardous if it comes into contact with your mucous membranes (eyes, nose, mouth etc)and can cause meningitis which attacks your central nervous system and can lead to death in 24hrs if untreated. In a heavily saturated area it is essential to wear an approved respirator and sealed eye protection. It is actually considered to be as hazardous as dealing with heavy metals and mercury so be careful next time you're cleaning out the pigeon coop.
Posted by G, 15/07/2010 10:34:39 AM, on The Herald
What about chook poo? I can't see that it would be different.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 15/07/2010 12:21:37 PM
sounds like these flying rats need a visit from kindly old doctor foot.
Posted by catl, 15/07/2010 10:38:03 AM, on The Herald
Well it looks like the Merewether Surf House pigeons are now moving back into the City into the Empire Hotel, I call that an update in accomodation as they all started in Newcastles old disused petrol or gas tank terminus that use to be in Steel st across the road from Marketown carpark for decades before they went to their coastal views from the disused Merewether beach surf house. Things must be looking up in the City cause they are on their way back, with beautiful water views of the Grain Silo across the harbour in Carrington in a disused hotel to tell them when dinner time is ! The prim and proper upper class pigeons and seagulls living in the old Newcastle post office just don't like sharing.. Where to next is the question. Serious, that's no $h!t Jeff !
Posted by The Real Tough Tweety, 15/07/2010 10:42:23 AM, on The Herald
i didn't realise her letters were serious. I really thought she was taking the piss.
Posted by bakela, 15/07/2010 10:54:57 AM, on The Herald
She most definitely was not! Spoke to Claire yesterday and she is very, very concerned.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 15/07/2010 11:06:21 AM
Morning Jeff, regarding the pigeon problem ! As with displaced persons there must be counselling for these poor creatures ! where would they prefer to go ? maybe they would like alternative accommodation while something is done with their former residence ? There would never be enough bird boxes to house all of them, so forget that idea. As an animal lover I do feel sorry for the birds but I think the only detrimental effect will be no breeding for a while and that is probably a good thing. Am I being too harsh?
Posted by Ash, 15/07/2010 11:05:14 AM, on The Herald
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