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NSW Fire Brigades has just doubled the false alarm charge to commercial buildings from $250 to $500, and I say that's still a bargain! Two or more fire trucks with full crews of firefighters race helter skelter to a building, firefighters spend half an hour checking that the alarm was false, then they all go back to the station, all up close to an hour. But it's not a bargain anyone wants, not even the fire brigade. Hunter brigades raced to almost 1500 false alarms in commercial buildings in the first half of this year!

The problem is that smoke alarms in apartment blocks and other commercial buildings are linked to a fire station, so when the toast sets the smoke detector off it also sets the fire trucks on their way. And the problem is, the fire brigades say, smoke detectors in or too close to kitchens and people showering with the door open, when steam can spark a false alarm.

In my column in The Herald today I tell of the bill received by one of my colleagues from the manager of her apartment building, the Grand Mercure Apartments in Newcastle West, for a false alarm in her rented apartment. That false alarm was triggered by butter melting in a saucepan, and another false alarm a couple of weeks later was caused by cooking steak. The fire brigade says the detector in her rented apartment is in a bad position, but the manager is seeking to extract the $250 for the first false alarm and what will be $500 for the second one from the tenant. Then there's $70 per alarm charged by the building's fire-security firm. The manager tells me she finds it hard to get the money out of some people!

My colleague and her flatmates have since been given a shower cap by a member of the manager's staff to put over the smoke detector when they're cooking, by the way.

But it's a bigger problem than these bills. In 2004/05, for example, 96 per cent of the NSW Fire Brigade's 2000 call-outs to apartment buildings over four storeys were false alarms triggered by smoke detectors.

If doubling the false alarm fee is going to solve the problem, it hasn't yet in my colleagues apartment building. Smoke alarms are a great advance, but it appears that the disadvantages are overwhelming now.

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I hate it when the smoke alarm goes off when you're cooking something. If that's what happens with an apartment, then you may as well get junk food like mcdoggles.
Posted by Mike Birch, 20/08/2009 10:44:43 AM, on The Herald
stop at a stop sign or get fined, cover the smoke detector whilst cooking or get a call-out fine (or worse a consience if someone dies cause the firies are not available because of a false alarm). Leave the fire detector covered and maybe die in your own oil-based fire on the stove or other cause. tough life this 21st century and we do have to be responsible to some things. or still ...pay the fire detector company to change the detectors location from above the stove?
Posted by hotfoot, 20/08/2009 11:02:14 AM, on The Herald
Many large public buildings use flame rather than smoke detectors in cooking and meal areas for this reason. It seems that people's inability to cook toast in the tea room resulted in too many false alarms. I’m not sure that translates in to safer outcomes however. I imagine according to TT ‘s logic this knowledge would make me a fireman.
Posted by Directeur Sportif, 20/08/2009 11:23:38 AM, on The Herald
Eat a carrot instead.
Posted by Bugs Bunny, 20/08/2009 12:41:32 PM, on The Herald
Jeff, if you go to Jesmond centre, you will find that is a occurance on a monthly basis from faulty wiring.... They are actually digging a hole as we speak to fix this problem that has happened at least 8 times this year so far.... Real world Sporty, you wouldn't see much past your horse blinkers these days of reality out your porta-loo would you! Logic is that you would be an arsonist or fire exstinguisher sales man!! Firemen have real lives to live, not like you... You live in a fantasy world !! And as Sporty said you have to look at what area of the building you are in, as most centres have a few different forms of detectors are needed in areas such as cooking areas compared to a clothes selling shop.... Sporty can you spot the difference between a food service area extinguishers compared to a clothing area exstinguishers.. I think not !! Do you even know the difference in colour to what form of colour the fire exstinguishers come in are used for ? Red Yellow & blue are used for different forms of fire situations.... What do you think water puts out everything sporty ? I think so !!
Posted by Tough Titties, 20/08/2009 2:39:16 PM, on The Herald
Tough Titties is out of touch. Flourocarbon based extinguishing agents (yellow) were outlawed years ago except in aircraft. "only randy young girls bite mens bums".....orange, red, yellow, green,blue, mauve, black.........The colours of sprinkler bulbs in increasing temerature scale. Once a firie always a firie!!
Posted by Fireman Sam, 20/08/2009 3:24:20 PM, on The Herald
Fireman Sam - to suggest that TT is out of touch is an understatement to say the least. TT -This is some of your best work. Best you up the dose of lithium again, but try and get a few more posts in before it takes full effect. "you wouldn't see much past your horse blinkers these days of reality out your porta-loo would you" -Gold! and this "What do you think water puts out everything sporty ? I think so !!" Answer -no I don't, but it appears that you d0 - you are a genuine idiot.
Posted by Directeur Sportif, 20/08/2009 3:49:02 PM, on The Herald
If I sit out on the balcony of my apartment block at dinner times I hear a cacophony of smoke detectors going off one after another. This is the third apartment I've lived in and the smoke detectors they use are so sensitive if you open a hot oven they go off. I long decided the small risk of fire is not worth the inconvenience of the smoke detectors going off every time I want to cook something so I disconnected mine. Once my friends discovered how easy they are to disconnect they couldn't wait to do the same to theirs. So frankly they are a waste of time and money.
Posted by Brando, 20/08/2009 4:39:42 PM, on The Herald
Fact1) Yellow is illegal except for aircraft, that means they are not illegal but are restricted to certain areas & sale. Fact 2) Sporty, you can't even name the colour code to what Fire extinguishers are used for.... Fireman sam did, I did....That proves who the genuine Idiot is on this blog ! Your a standout Sporty! an outstanding Idiot!!
Posted by Tough Titties, 20/08/2009 8:09:22 PM, on The Herald
i am appalled that people would disconnect their smoke detectors. a friend of mine had their house catch on fire in the middle of the night and the only reason they got out alive was cause the smoke detectors woke them all up. but i do agree they do need to be positioned correctly so that they are not set off by steam, cooking etc.
Posted by senior sergeant smith, 21/08/2009 9:42:48 AM, on The Herald
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