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There are two types of men: men who hold hands and men who don't. I should clarify that: men who hold hands with women and men who hold hands only under extreme duress. Well, that duress can be desperate groundwork, which is the excuse one of my bike-riding mates put up when my wife triumphantly spied him holding hands with his wife last Sunday morning.

Isn't he, she cried in glee, a real man! So real men do hold hands! Maybe you're not a real man at all!

Who wouldn't wince under such a barrage?

In my column in The Herald today I describe the sort of men who hold hands and the sort of men who don't, and I'll be surprised if you can't find yourself or your man in there somewhere.

Men who hold hands, for example, go for coffee and cake on Sunday mornings with the woman in their life. She's seldom his wife, by the way, because his wife has traded him in on a real man. They like moonlit walks. And picnics. And they say "love you" at the end of phone conversations.

Men who don't hold hands include those who fix things, and have a shed, and open jars when the missus can't, and have mastered the art of blowing the contents of one nostril then the other to earth. And it's entirely natural, and thus excusable, that these same men feel the need occasionally to adjust themselves. Men who hold hands never have such a need, which is why they're free to hold hands.

How do you see the difference between hand holders and real men?

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Jeff - it is common in some cultures (in India and some Islamic countries) [I'm sure your well traveled bloggers will know] for two men to hold hands in public in friendship. You views on that - or dare not I ask!
Posted by Handy Andy, 3/12/2009 9:07:57 AM, on The Herald
Indeed it is common in some other countries and cultures, Handy. In PNG, for example, where I spent a year, friends walking along a street are likely to be holding fingers. But these countries are not ours!
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 3/12/2009 9:19:50 AM
Morning Jeff, that was a bit sickly over breakfast ! if real men suffer from all those unsavoury habits (ugh) I for one would not to hold hands with a real one !! I think the coffee & cake type suits me .
Posted by Ash, 3/12/2009 9:28:41 AM, on The Herald
But that's all they're good for, Ash, coffee and cake!
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 3/12/2009 9:29:14 AM
what am I? if I work out what is the best and right way to behave for the circumstances I am in and the people I am with? That is i blow off at the urinal and dont care, but always try to avoid doing it in other circumstances with other people around (especially in lifts). if i have to clear a nostrol or hang a crap - always i do that out of sight and range of others in public. But seeing who pees the highest is one of a males small contests that doesnt hurt anybody? (a secret wall etc). Jars and tough assignments - well thats why one goes to the gym or works hard to make sure that the ability is always available (never know when you have carry her unconcious out of a burning building over your shoulder?) The tossle tussel - thats what i though gays do to attract each others attentions? Holding hands - i have always thought thats body language for "it nice to be with you" , "lets go this way" or one step further along the getting to know her ladder? Moonlit nights beach walks quite times - meaningless unless you enjoy the tranquility and quiet focus on the environment and the person you are with. I learnt most of this post puberty and some of it before - was i socially deprived?
Posted by notashrink, 3/12/2009 9:29:52 AM, on The Herald
So what. Its up to the person themself if they want to do it. If you dont like it DONT LOOK. In Bali they cuddle each other, the males.
Posted by Concerned Resident, 3/12/2009 9:30:03 AM, on The Herald
I have an alternate view... I propose that the its not the type of MAN that determines hand holding but the type of WOMAN. I have noticed that there appears to be a correlation between the attractiveness of ones female partner and the willingness to hold hands. WHo wants to be seen holding hands with an ugly chick?!?! On the other hand, a man walking beside a particularly attractive woman would do all in his power (including holding hands) to ensure that all other men assocaite him with that particularly attractive specimen!! Holding hands with TWO sexy chicks would propel even the most boring of men into the realms of legend amongst his peers, would it not??
Posted by Sexy Hands Only, 3/12/2009 9:41:32 AM, on The Herald
I protest! Or at least I can give you an example of a hand holding real man. I have a man that fits into both categories! He grew up on a farm, and is very practical. He has a shed, fixes the car, fixes things, builds things, makes furniture, holds my hand, is loving and affectionate. However we don't do coffee and cake..... well very rarely. He really is a top bloke, and is a man's man. He isn't a clingy hand holder, but he likes to hold my hand when we are out and about and isn't afraid to show affection (it just won't be full on!). And he absolutely dotes on our beautiful baby and loves nothing more than holding him in public and giving him lots of kisses and hugs. He even tries hard to understand the art world for me.... although I don't bother dragging him to galleries and openings every week. A couple a year is the most I inflict on him. Yes I am a very lucky woman. And I really do cherish my bloke.
Posted by leahkf, 3/12/2009 10:16:54 AM, on The Herald
I hold my wife's hand in public. Who cares what other rednecks think? Not me. If I didn't she might jump into a taxi & shoot through! I occasionally do coffee, but rarely cake. I also have a bench lathe in my garage, & an old Yamaha TT600. I reckon I'm ok at fixing things. Once (after high school) I built a dune buggy out of an ancient 2 stroke RD350 engine, & the steering column etc from a mini moke. Timber chassis. I had decided that 4 wheels was safer than 2, having burned my leg quite badly on the cylinder of the RD (I dropped it on myself after school...). The buggy's clutch was a fanbelt ~ the engine was sitting on a hinged plate behind the seat (a kitchen chair with the legs cut off), which could be lifted slightly using a lever that ran alongside the seat. As you lowered the lever, the engine dropped to the horizontal, tensioning the belt, and driving the back axle. Under load the whole thing shuddered violently, & was probably unsafe. The contraption is still in an Aunt's shed at Cooranbong. In any case, I reckon I'm a real man, & I hold my wife's hand. There must be more more valid or useful (but probably less sensational) ways to distinguish 'real men' from the less real.
Posted by Abundance, 3/12/2009 10:17:47 AM, on The Herald
Maybe you're an insecure real man, Abundance. Try just a hooked finger next time.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 3/12/2009 10:45:27 AM
jeff- handy andy is correct about other cultures hand holding, although over here the girls all like to hold hands and the lads will have their arm over another blokes shoulder. It is a common sight. My hand is often grabbed when crossing a road, if I am with a chinese associate, the last thing they want to see is a foreigner get skittled. I always feel a bit put out by it. I don't however, see a lot of boy/girl hand holding?...strange that!
Posted by suzhousid, 3/12/2009 10:18:29 AM, on The Herald
what status would i have if i was seen holding hands with two fat ugly chicks? why are fat chicks like honda 50 step thru motorbikes? they are both fun to ride until your mates catch you.
Posted by yeppers, 3/12/2009 10:30:02 AM, on The Herald
I spent a bit of time in Wau PNG jeff and thought it strange to see the men finger locked,but if they ever had the missus in tow coming from the local market he would be 5 metres in front with some kind of primitive weapon while she trudged along with a loaded billem (bag) wrapped around her head.
Posted by horse, 3/12/2009 10:38:29 AM, on The Herald
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