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Homosexual marriage

It's becoming the new rallying point for homosexuals, the right to marry, and I read that a new lobby group in the Hunter is accusing Labor and Liberals of homophobia for their refusal to change the Marriage Act. The homosexual lobby wants the definition of marriage in that act changed from "the union of a man and a woman" to "the union of two people". As I write in my column in the Herald today, I expect one day governments will be under pressure to change that to "the union of two or more people".

Why are both our prospective federal governments refusing to include homosexuals and, indeed, people of any sexuality in the institution of marriage? Numbers. Both fear that they'll lose more votes than they'll gain by changing just those few words in the Marriage Act, and they're probably right.

The homosexual lobby's best course, I say, is not to attack anyone or any organisation as homophobic, a charge that only strengthens opposition, but to explain to the great stolid mass that would be offended by homosexual marriage that many homosexuals are in long-term, caring relationships that really are worthy of the social sanction of marriage. Many of these men and women in same-sex relationships are life partners raising children, and as couples and as families they are indistinguishable from other families. Apart, of course, from the common gender.

As couples, as parents, they have the same hopes and fears and frailties as the rest of us, they have the same right to acceptance and happiness as us all, so why should they be denied a social sanction that would strengthen their relationship? If the marriage of a man and a woman is a benefit to society, why would not the marriage of a committed male or female couple provide the same benefit? Would allowing same-sex marriage diminish the institution?

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I was just getting ready to write a 10 page essay on my thoughts about this subject when it suddenly dawned on me. Geeeez you are a game man!
Posted by Bush Bunny, 17/08/2010 8:01:28 AM, on The Herald
Hey Bush Bunny from out Dubbo way, give us a compressed version of your 10-pager.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 17/08/2010 9:51:34 AM
I wonder whether we will see, in future years, the children from these unions challenging what they have been put through? Will they be able to live regular lives or feel awkward about their parents choice? Will they be ostresised by their parents choice? Will the parents be able to be objective in their upbringing? Or is this just part of the current "sex revolution" which seems to be forced down our throat. I'm 60 - I grew up with the belief of Adam and Eve - not Adam and Steve. I find it very hard to accept. I know so many people who now regard themselves as "gay", because they wanted to experiment with sex! They mostly already had children and had decided they had given enough time to their children ( lot's aged 5), and now it was time for them. Just a trendy sex revolution, is how I see it.
Posted by Rose- Lake Macquarie, 17/08/2010 8:37:21 AM, on The Herald
There are already as adults quite a few people who've grown in the care of homosexual parents. A significant number of them have maintained close contact, too, with a parent who has realised his or her homosexuality and departed the marriage.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 17/08/2010 9:53:40 AM
i think all marriages are bloody weird. why would a bloke want to marry a bloke anyway? it's bad enough being a bloke and marrying a woman. and isn't marriage also called "holy wedlock"? and doesn't the church (lmfao) disapprove of gay stuff? forget it. go fight for something worthwhile.
Posted by judgedredd, 17/08/2010 9:45:47 AM, on The Herald
Hey Rose, If it all started with Adam & Eve, then their children had a bigger issue than homosexuality. Not sure where your belief structure goes once you do the math there. (Start strumming the banjos perhaps) To be honest, good people should all be treated the same. As for marriage, then if they are good working people, they are in my view more deserving of a licence to marry and breed then half the welfare dependent slobs in this town.
Posted by IndyJonesJnr, 17/08/2010 10:18:21 AM, on The Herald
Thanks for airing my views - not many people would give them a space! I do realise and accept that their are folk who have hormone imbalances and other related problems, which makes them the way they feel. I accept that without complications. They are nice, normal folk and I certainly extend a hand to them - no probs. It's the extraverted "gay community" which insists on throwing themselves into the limelight, that I cannot cope with. They have ruined any chances of the ordinary folk being fully accepted, thru their antics. I do a lot of voluntary community work and deal with a diverse range of people, so I do have an open mind. I just don't like minorities thrusting their views down everyones throats - savvy?
Posted by Rose- Lake Macquarie, 17/08/2010 10:18:54 AM, on The Herald
i'm not sure why the churchies get their knickers in a twist over this. How does it even affect them? Who is getting hurt by allowing gay marriage? I reckon the happy clappers are way too concerned about what is going on in other people's lives and should just focus on their own
Posted by fista, 17/08/2010 10:25:21 AM, on The Herald
Good point fista. Homosexual marriage has nothing to do with churches. In fact, not much these days has. The church was mortally wounded some years ago.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 17/08/2010 10:34:59 AM
Well it's like this. Growing up in the bush and being involved in the marking and sexing of thousands of lambs, hundreds of cattle etc I have seen on numerous occasions where nature had got it wrong. (and that was only visually). It therefore follows that this occurs with people too. I have no doubts that women can be born in a mans body and vice versa. The problem I have with it is that it is not normal and you don't have to be Einstein to work out that their lives are going to be anything but normal. I would imagine for the genuine ones affected that "coming out" would surely take a lot of guts but they too must accept the reality of how their lives will run. I honestly don't believe the decisions about a normal marriage for them should be the burdens of government. They can still have benefits for couples without being married and I have no problems with living together. Many Normal couples do not marry and we don't hear them whinging. For me personally God made women so well that I could never envisage the alternative but then again thats just me and hey whats that saying. "If it's got tits wheels or propellors it will eventually give you trouble"!.......................
Posted by Bush Bunny, 17/08/2010 10:25:32 AM, on The Herald
Personally I don't have a problem with gay marriages, best of luck to them. I don't believe it's homophobia stopping the change to the marriage act either, it's simply governments toeing the line and pandering to the catholic church's stance on the subject. As if they had any moral credibility anyway.
Posted by Steve G, 17/08/2010 10:36:32 AM, on The Herald
Yes Steve, none.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 17/08/2010 10:52:03 AM
Why not let them get married? I reckon homosexuals should have the right to be just as miserable as the rest of us.
Posted by Why Not?, 17/08/2010 10:45:31 AM, on The Herald
Personally, I don't understand why "normal" people find gay and lesbians so threatening - it's not just a carry over from the days when we all lived by the Bible. It's probably just that they are a fringe group on society, and like all the other fringe groups, they are "different" and therefore to be feared. As for the argument that any children brought up in these relationships will somehow be dysfunctional people, that's a non-argument. It's a well known fact that people brought up in a loving environment usually turn out to be fully adjusted adults. Jeff has done a blog on dysfunctional families and they are mainly heterosexual couples. If 2 people love each other, why can't they have their relationship recognised by society?
Posted by Dastirum, 17/08/2010 11:02:47 AM, on The Herald
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