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It's reasonable to suppose that 10 per cent of people in a community are stupid, isn't it? Well, does that mean that one in 10 elected councillors should be stupid, or at least formally identified as such? The same goes for tall and short people, for people who can't speak English, for people who have tertiary qualifications and for people who don't.

I'm moved to question the relatively new attempts to balance men and women on public and even private bodies, and, yes, the failure yet to achieve the balance shows just how difficult a task it is. Further illustrating the difficulties and pitfalls of that task was the performance this week of two women who've actually made it onto a public body. That body is Maitland City Council and the two women are its only two female councillors, Lisa Tierney and Loretta Baker.

As you may have read in a news report in The Herald, they gave an exquisite glimpse of those difficulties when they objected to another Maitland councillor's request for the council to support International Men's Day in November. Cr Philip Penfold suggested the council give much the same support to the men's day it gave to the International Women's Day last Sunday. About $1500.

No big deal. A worthy cause, given the belated emphasis on prostate cancer and male suicides. But no, the two women councillors just two days after they'd participated in International Women's Day with the council's support argued against the council supporting the men's day. It was premature, community groups had been more involved in organising the women's day, women faced different social challenges from men ... .

Whether or not those reasons make sense to you, you'd have to wonder why they'd object.

I don't know that Crs Tierney and Baker were lifted by political patronage into their winnable positions on party tickets, but I found myself questioning the wisdom of giving women leg-ups into such roles. Imagine the crazy reasoning flipping around the chambers like a deflating balloon if half the councillors were women!

Cr Tierney made the point at the meeting that being equal wasn't about giving everyone the same thing; it was, she said, about levelling the playing field.

In my column today I make the point that a level playing field, and these days it's tilted positively for women, is not a level podium. I suppose lifting women into public positions is, in one sense, levelling the podium, but I question whether the women, women in general and the people are winners in such cases.

Is it time we examined the wisdom of the secretive positive discrimination and the political leg-ups?

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Jeff : (a) it's WAY more than 10%. You're being nice. Stop it. (b) Yes, stupid people should be identified. They often tattoo themselves, so in many cases, they can be spotted from afar. (c) Tierney and Baker have failed to realise that about 50% of voters are men and will resent these Councillors for downplaying the critical importance of mens health. (c) Positive discrimination / affirmative action etc etc is a farce. I think we should all just be 100% honest in our dealings and our language, and let others respond how they see fit. 'Positive' discrimination is simply a result of spineless people being afraid to offend those who are unable to take responsibility for their own lives. [drones, jump in here...]
Posted by StopPayingTheBludgers, 12/03/2009 4:20:52 PM
I knew you'd get some milage out of this story Jeff....as a bloke, I find the celebration of a Men's Day as just ridiculous. Within a generation or two, women have been denied the vote, had to resign when they got a job etc - something which should be recognised. Us blokes - well, I like being a bloke but don't need a day to celebrate it
Posted by stevo, 12/03/2009 5:45:47 PM
Jeff, Ouch! You've cornered the issue. Affording women more-than equal opportunity has not in this case ensured a reciprocal gesture toward males. In fact quite the contrary! Sexism has no place in this country, and it is shameful that women who supposedly uphold the ideals of International Women's Day would be willing to practice blatant such discrimination.
Posted by Theresa, 12/03/2009 8:10:09 PM
Well, I’ve bitten. Last Sunday was International Women's Day. Did you see it celebrated, nay even mentioned, in the media? Not a word. What sensation was making the news last week? The trials and tribulations of (another) footballer off his face charged with the sexual assault of a woman. His angst and his emotional ravages, nonstop agonising by (male) sports commentators and (male) sports administrators on the dastardly effects the allegations would have on him, his team’s performance, team morale, its future, and the fortunes of (male) football generally (teams, incredibly, still heavily supported and promoted courtesy of the rampant male-dominated liquor industry). Any word about the welfare of the woman concerned? What? I say let them have their Men's Day. It will be promoted and flaunted far and wide, so when Women's Day comes around the media might feel obliged to afford that a little coverage as well. And who knows, some good might come of Men’s Day. Perhaps it mightn’t even be sponsored by the liquor industry (but I wouldn’t bet on that). And as for those two women (stupid, you imply) on Maitland Council - have they really just had a misguided leg-up? What about the good old days of the casting couch? How could the writer of a column as illogical, grubby and retrograde as this one insinuate anything less insulting?
Posted by Kate, 12/03/2009 8:14:28 PM
Naughty naughty Jeff. Now you have gone and inflamed the gender superior feminists in our midst such as Kate who makes the assertion that you implied the women were stupid. I have read and re-read your article and cannot see any such assertion, but there again with this mob, truth is always the first casualty. I also note with amusement that despite the vitriolic diatribe against the column, he/she must have read it all to its conclusion in order to post her comment. Makes one wonder if he/she has ever written anything completely impartial.
Posted by Miz Jasper, 13/03/2009 8:36:53 AM
Kate, you have totally missed the point of Jeff's blog. Jeff is trying to point out the hypocricy in these womens actions where they supported "equal rights for women" and supporting $1500 in funding for National Womens Day, but then do not support "Equal rights for men" for International Mens Day. As for your point of it not being advertised on TV, watching Sky News on Fox, every woman that was interviewed in the month leading up to it mentioned the day, people from Julia Gillard, to the CEO of Westpac, etc. It was also mentioned on ABC's Q&A program, and i'm sure other programs. I can't vouch for commercial free to air advertising, as it doesn't really interest me, but for the current affairs minded, it was mentioned quite a bit. The Feminist industry is the same as the Climate change industry, if you disagree with their cause, your persicuted and ridiculed untill you conform.
Posted by Nafe, 13/03/2009 9:10:34 AM
I have changed my screen name to protect my (male) identity. I find the whole women getting differenet treatment rather amusing and I often re-tell this story. Back in my university days, I worked in a warehouse of a large, well known retail store, with about 12 others, all young males. At some stage, females complained that generally weren't permitted to work within this team - it was a hard job, but in some ways good because it avoided dealing directly with customers on the sales floor - plus we started at 5am and were finished by 2pm ready for the beach! So eventually, being a good company and not being discriminatory, they changed the team to be half men, half females. Everyone applauded! Then we realised that the women were not allowed to lift anything heavier than 18kg due to OH&S......men could lift up to 30 unassisted. How many boxes/pallets that come off a truck weigh less than 18kg you ask?? Well, about 1%. I now found myself in a team of 12, where only 6 could actually do the work. Women's rights meant that we HAD to slave harder, faster, longer hours whilst the girls stood by waiting for that 1% of boxes that they cvould manage. The rights of all those guys seemed to have vanished overnight to make way for 'equal treatment'.
Posted by The Man About Town, 13/03/2009 9:12:58 AM
I am in two minds about this Jeff. I do believe in equality - and I don't believe there is a level playing field yet. A few years ago I worked in a large company and was privy to salaries and bonuses - and I can absolutely guarantee that men were paid more than women in the same positions. It was particularly obvious in senior management positions and sales executive roles. The most amazing part was the female sales execs were far outselling the guys yet were on lower wages and bonuses. And it was very disappointing to see. I was very tempted to approach colleagues about this, but it seemed unethical so I didn't. There are some areas in life where things may have skewed a little on the womens side, however on the whole men and yes Kate particularly in the sports arena have a far better ride in this world. I don't see our champion netballers out there boozing it up and behaving badly - let alone getting paid copious amounts of money. Womens sports struggle to get any recognition or sponsorship and yet seem very worthy ambassadors for Australia. A lot of these women are an inspiration as they hold down full or part time jobs while training to be elite athletes. However.... I qualify all this by saying I'm quite ashamed to see how a lot of women are behaving nowadays out and about. I hate being on Beaumont street on a sat night for all the awful hens parties pub crawling. Where is the dignity in that behaviour?
Posted by leahkf, 13/03/2009 9:14:50 AM
Dear Kate, hardly a mention of women's day you say? Lol. A Google search shows 3270000 million entries for International Women's Day. A comparative search for International Men's Day reveals: wait for it............ 5,270. Was Women's Day reported all over the media? You bet it was. Also, according to the official International Woman's Day Website there were 976 major IWD events in 62 countries, and of those a staggering 162 formal events were held in Australia (check it here if you wish: http://www.internationalwomensday .com/ )Now, guess how many International Men's day celebrations were held last year in Australia? Well, actually just 1 (one). Poor neglected International women's day. Peter
Posted by Peter, 13/03/2009 9:19:23 AM
This morning in my email I found photos of a young man with a woman in chains, guns and little else tattooed on his leg. The procedure being illustrated was the woman's breasts being ehanced to enourmous proportions with implants. This is the subliminal discrimination that women daily face, at the whim of men. We may have got the vote recently, we may not have to resign on marriage, but women still bear the brunt of societies condemnations. Is there a male equivalent of the dissmissive and discriminatory phrase " gender superior feminists" or dont "gender superior" males exist?
Posted by Linda Baker, 13/03/2009 9:26:26 AM
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