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Marriage vices

What should love have to do with it? The Japanese are embroiled in a craze of marriage hunting, or konkatsu, so The Herald reported yesterday, and it's a craze that has government and commercial support. Government is keen to increase the nation's low birth rate and falling marriage rate, and business has spied an opportunity. One example that struck me as having immediate potential in Australia was a baseball stadium that sets aside special seating for people looking for a spouse. How would that go at the football?

Apparently a typical konkatsu event is people standing around clutching drinks in a themed hall as they scan the room for likely looking partners, and that is precisely what happens here every night of the week. I cannot see much that is different.

One less obvious difference may be the western myth that people should be in the grip of romantic love to be successfully married, and I believe also that the notion of romantic love is itself a myth created by novelists, filmmakers, soapie concocters and songwriters.

The very last person who should be assessing the worth of a prospective partner in marriage is someone who believes he or she is in love, even if the reality is nothing more than infatuation. The arranged marriages that many new and old Australians choose must begin at a much better base than the impossible expectations of a romantic marriage. By new Australians I mean those who return to their home country to meet a prospective wife or husband chosen by family and/or friends, and by old Australians I mean the increasing number of men who go through commercial brokers to find a bride in a country of Asia or Eastern Europe. Even the latter allows a degree of objectivity unlikely to be found in the delusion of romantic love.

Researchers at the ANU have discovered that it is shared vices rather than shared education, background or religion that give a marriage its best chance of survival. In a report titled What's Love Got To Do With It, the researchers tell how two people who smoke or who don't smoke, and who drink similar amounts of alcohol, are less likely to separate than couples comprising smoker and non-smoker, drinker and teetotaller. Naturally, given the expense, a marriage is in strife when the wife drinks considerably more than the husband.

I'm surprised, now, that I and others have been surprised by this finding. Our vices have a much greater impact on our relationships, I would say, than our virtues. And it's a pity that the research, which looked at 2500 couples for seven years, didn't take into account other vices.

And it's a wonder that my marriage has survived 30 years. I smoked, she never smoked; I'm a guzzler, she's a teetotaller; I frequent brothels (even if I stay in the waiting room, yeah right!), she doesn't; I think tits on toast is a wonderful innovation, she doesn't.

Maybe there's more to this business of predicting the success or otherwise of marriage. Any ideas? And do you think vice trumps virtue as a guide to a marriage's longevity?

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If your in a similar position to a now former minister of the crown, why wouldnt you look a bit further from the rottweiller kennel? I wonder if she said to him, Do you know who I am?
Posted by MizJasper, 1/09/2009 11:04:48 AM, on The Herald
The key to longevity in marriage is separate bedrooms (with adequate soundproofing). Plus a blokes toilet with outside direct access and a tiled floor that can be hosed out. All the other hassles will sort themselves out. If you're interested Jeff, Gore Vidal said the secret of successful long-lived gay partnerships (you wont catch me saying gay "marriage") is to stop having sex with each other. Maybe that applies to a lot of straight set-ups too.
Posted by Snooze, 1/09/2009 11:49:33 AM, on The Herald
Why wouldn't we catch you saying gay marriage, Snooze?
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 1/09/2009 11:56:29 AM
Jeff, all my marriages were sucessful. These are my tips for you, stop talking about your escapades in brothels, strip clubs, Islington and clean your own urine up. Seriously most marriages are arranged, some blissfully married wife is always trying to set up her hubbys mates, usually to stop him from going out on the turps with them.
Posted by buell, 1/09/2009 12:02:24 PM, on The Herald
Yes, wives have a thing about their hubby's mates. Especially the single mates.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 1/09/2009 12:25:34 PM
maybe the secret to a long marriage is that there needs to be more than romantic love. romance is a good starting point but you have to also be understanding of each others funny ways, communicate well and be respectful of each others. i dont think either partner should try to tell the other what to do. if you have to resort to power struggles what have you really got?
Posted by senior sergeant smith, 1/09/2009 12:30:08 PM, on The Herald
The key to a successful marrage is to say what you mean and mean what you say. No riddles, don't imply, don't say "whatever you think" cause we will do it and then be in trouble for it. I don't understand suggestive talk, or that you "Implied No" or couldn't desipher correctly when you said "I don't care" etc etc, i won't go on. LOL
Posted by Nafe, 1/09/2009 12:43:12 PM, on The Herald
I've found the secret to a long marriage to be a month-long sex holiday each year. I go in June and the wife goes in October.
Posted by moron, 1/09/2009 12:54:37 PM, on The Herald
39% of australian marriages end in divorce, 39% of married women should learn to do as their told.
Posted by catl, 1/09/2009 1:29:11 PM, on The Herald
love is over rated ...it has the same chemical reaction as a very large intake of chocolate.. (apparently), sex on the other hand!...healthy.. now if I could just find a partner who doesn't care for chocolate..I'd be laughing.
Posted by suzhousid, 1/09/2009 3:39:50 PM, on The Herald
Good point, suz. Hey, how about telling us about life in China? Only regular bloggers will know that suzhousid is a former Hunter man who lives and works in China, and I seem to recall, suz, that you mentioned teaching in China. Do you speak Mandarin? Do you like the food? Tell us about it.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 1/09/2009 3:52:38 PM
Jerry Seinfeld said it well : "The thing I find amazing about marriage is that it happens so often. You like this person so much that you want to see them each day, after day, after day? You'd think this would be so rare that it would happen, what, three or four times in a century?". Maybe if we regarded marriage as a surprising and unlikely status of a relationship, rather than a predictable and inevitable outcome, it would be more resilient?
Posted by Abundance, 1/09/2009 4:39:27 PM, on The Herald
Ni Hao, jeff, China!..the land of constant changes, which at times can be both hilarious and frustrating, things will change (plans etc) at the drop of a hat and we the 'waigorien' (foreigner) are usually the last to know. It is a common occurance in the Chinese way of life, but the Chinese just take it all in their stride...it has something to do with the way the people think.. very adaptable and very resourceful people and at times very funny. I am in a city called Yancheng, it has been known for sea salt mining/production for 2100 years, it is near the mighty Yangtze river. The Yangtze is the biggest river I have ever seen, (the Murray/Darling is a creek by comparison). there are only about 30 foreigners here in Yancheng, so it can be a bit difficult with language problems..I have become pretty good at charades and body language. I dont speak much Mandarin at the moment, except for a few essential phrases like "how much is that?" and the obligatory "thank you" 'hello" and "goodbye". I will, in the course of the new semester be learning Mandarin, as it is offered to me because I am teaching at the University. On the subject of food...it is wonderful and so very cheap.

The food can be a lot different to what we westerners would be used to. The markets are the funniest thing I have ever seen. There are rows and rows of cages with chickens or some other animal and what you do is point, it is grabbed and weighed and if you like you can take it home and clean and chop yourself or for a few extra yuan the stall keeper will take it to the 'killing floor' and do it for you, either way it is very fresh.... the pork is excellent quality, better than anything I ever got in Australia, the sea food is also very fresh...I took home a bag of prawns the other day and the 'buggers' were trying to jump out of the bag. Eating in a restaurant is almost like a religious ceremony, there are a few courtesies to be observed, but, for the chinese it is the most important time of the day, mealtime is always accompanied by much noise and laughter. Another tradition which I find hilarious is the summertime 'nanny nap' everyday at noon..down with the tools and just pull up a slab of footpath and have a nap for about 3 hours,... it is pretty funny, having said that, these people work very hard and are usually very happy about it all. We barbarians could learn a thing or two.

Posted by suzhousid, 1/09/2009 5:06:44 PM, on The Herald
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