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Micromanaging children

Queensland University researchers, I read in the Herald yesterday, are trying to establish whether Australian parents are killing their children with kindness by micromanaging their lives, and that's a subject that rings a loud bell at my place. We have five children - all bar one are adults - and it seems that my wife and I have been under a barrage of protest about interfering in their lives since the first one became a toddler!

Our hateful micromanagement has covered everything from weekend sport to eating vegetables to simple household chores, and while we've not relented I, I'll admit, have been burdened by doubt and weariness from time to time. And maintaining what I'd see as the basic rules of civilisation has been a struggle in the face of allegations about ruining their life. Those rules have been as simple as ensuring that the bin lid is closed when you put rubbish in it, going straight home after school, getting home by 2am (if you're 18) and not eating in the bedroom. Indeed, just last night as I write this we were perilously close to a household rebellion simply because we insisted that the no-eating-in-the-bedrooms rule applied to our 21-year-old daughter. Especially, I would say, to our 21-year-old daughter.

Other persistent protests against our micromanagement are about being required to get out of bed before the afternoon, not spending days and nights staring at game screens, and eating dinner as a family.

The Queensland researchers say they're trying to determine if parents' attempts to give their kids more structure and safety and a better education were of benefit or ultimately robbed children of a sense of responsibility. And I have wondered the same. I know children who've grown in homes very different from mine, in homes where there seemed to be no or few rules, little control and a "what happens happens" attitude, and in most cases these children have emerged as fine young adults.

Certainly the laidback approach must be easier than micromanaging or even just managing. I don't know which is better. Do you?

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Your words and thoughts are just further proof and reassurance that in our next lives it will be okay just to have Jack Russells instead!
Posted by Bush Bunny, 4/08/2010 7:44:00 AM, on The Herald
Yes Bush Bunny, that's something else gay couples have taught us. Two or three schnauzers is much more fun and less work than two or three brats!
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 4/08/2010 10:13:14 AM
Some people learn only by experience and unfortunatly I am one. Its a hard process and I regret not being taught early how to make the best of people (including my parents) that have valuable knowledge and experiences to learn from. How to structure a system where young people can respect that form of regret early rather than later - I dont know?
Posted by slow learner, 4/08/2010 8:48:35 AM, on The Herald
My mum used to say: "where did i go wrong". My usual response to her was something along the lines of this. You had 5 children, they all lived to be healthy adults, none of us have killed anyone or been in jail. It's all good. If kids, and adults for that matter, don't have some rules in their lives then you are asking for and helping to create anarchy. Children (and adults) need to have some rules and routine in their lives, its gives them security and confidence. And if the 21yo doesn't like the rules......
Posted by judgedredd, 4/08/2010 8:55:55 AM, on The Herald
I don't think you are micro managing Jeff, you are setting boundaries and rules - which is surely the framework to how kids grow up to have a sense of responsibility. Every family is different and I'm from a family of 5 which was at times chaotic. But we had rules. Have you been 'the same' with each child? Or did you modify the approach?
Posted by leahkf, 4/08/2010 9:40:23 AM, on The Herald
I'd say that I've become a little more relaxed but I don't think my children would agree with that, at least not those still at home. My eldest son says I came to like children only when the last one arrived! Because my kids have it all over their mother I have been the enforcer she whistles up in a crisis. I'd rather it was the other way round.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 4/08/2010 10:16:27 AM
Teenagers are really discriminated against, I urge all teenages to pack up, get a job, move out right now while they still know everything!
Posted by deathwarmedup, 4/08/2010 10:17:59 AM, on The Herald
Rules for a 21yo? The damage has already been done. The Jesuits might be a right suss bunch of dress-wearing kiddy-fiddling psychos, but they were right when they declared "give me the child until he is 7 and I will give you the man". Patterns of behaviour are established very early in life - competent parents provide young children with a structure that forms a sound basis for behaviour, decision-making, values, etc for the rest of their lives. If parents do this well, remain consistent, provide a good example and do everything with the best interests of the child's development (not the next 30 seconds of the child's life) in mind, they will produce functional, capable, confident adults. When they don't (as happens in the vast majority of cases) they produce damaged goods who are lumbered with baggage they have to spend the rest of their lives trying to shed. If you find yourself micro-managing teenagers or young adults, you've already failed. It's up to them how - you should step back as you've already done more harm than good. This stuff isn't rocket science, the evidence is before you every minute of every day.
Posted by Scott Hillard, 4/08/2010 10:20:06 AM, on The Herald
Jeff, you have ursurped your childrens' rights. I will lead a cavalcade of horses up and down your street until you repent for your sins, starting by abolishing the curfew, installing a kitchenette in each bedroom and removing the bin lids.
Posted by King of the Kids, 4/08/2010 10:22:36 AM, on The Herald
And don't forget a television in every bedroom. Our refusal to so equip bedrooms has been a very sore point for almost three decades.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 4/08/2010 10:30:36 AM
the answer Jeff is that there is no definitive answer, and you don't know how successful you've been till they're grown up and had kids of their own. One thing in Scott's post that resonates is "remain consistent". to me that is the key. It is not possible for a child to understand parameters if they are constantly shifted. Each parent needs to be consistent and they need to work as a team. I am in a fortunate situation where although my kids are the product of a broken marriage, all of us (natural parents and the two step parents) have essentially the same value system and the kids are evidence of loving home(s) & a consistent message. It was only when i had kids that i realised what a monumental job my parents had done. If i can do half the job they did my kids will turn out alright. one thing that used to amaze me was when at my weekend sport the partners of some of teammates would comment (often) "your kids are so well behaved". The response i wanted to scream at them was "Yes they are. WHY AREN'T YOUR'S?" fortunately i used some tact and simply told the kids how proud i was of them instead.
Posted by mikey, 4/08/2010 10:43:18 AM, on The Herald
I have a "soft / hard" philosophy. Some things I'm hard on. These are the non-negotiable things that i reckon are important in my family and our lives. These include things like having decent manners; being respectful to others; eating dinner as a family; taking responsibiloity for one's own actions. Other things, I'm soft on - that is, they are flexible or negotiable, and we each use our own best judgement as to how they pan out. This includes my 9 year old having a full vote. Life's too much fun to be totally anal retentive about things that don't warrant that approach....ut there are some things that are sacred. Personally, i think if you instill a hard core of principles and standards in your kids, you don't need to micromanage anything. They will be empowered to run their own lives.
Posted by Abundance, 4/08/2010 11:04:36 AM, on The Herald
Hey Scott have you ever watched the 7 up series? Certainly for some of those people, what you saw at 7 foretold their life as adults. However some of them led remarkably different lives to their childhood. Jeff I think being the 5th child, my life was easier regarding rules as they were most probably exhausted by me. However I was a good kid and never did anything bad, so I'm sure that helped. Sure I was naughty at time and did a bit of the teenage hissy fit! But all up my parents were much less vigilant.
Posted by leahkf, 4/08/2010 11:06:32 AM, on The Herald
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