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Morning grumps

The Federal Liberal parliamentarian and front bencher Andrew Robb has disclosed that he has a depressive illness that he'd long discounted as being not a morning person. He's 58, and he can recall being afflicted by morning despair and negativity as even a 12 year old. Later, as an adult, he learnt not to make decisions for the few hours it took for the morning low to pass. The problem has become more severe in his 50s, he sought help and he has learnt that he suffers from a condition known as diurnal variation of mood. And, importantly, he's assured it can be cured. The diurnal means that it is daytime and daily and, often, that it changes during the day.

I have known, well, quite a number of people who would describe themselves as "not a morning person", usually by way of apology, and some were positively unpleasant for the first hour or two of the day. No, not teenagers, who can be hideously contrary in the mornings. Research has found that teenagers' morning grumpiness and lethargy is due to the overnight release of the sleep hormone melatonin being delayed by a few hours for their teenage years, with the result that regardless of what time they went to bed they find it disagreeably difficult getting out bed.

Perhaps in some people this melatonin release is not recalibrated as they move into the 20s. Perhaps people who are not a morning person are just lazy, horrid and inconsiderate. Perhaps they have a medically recognised depression, as does Mr Robb.

How do you get out of bed? A train driver friend who has to rise at irregular times and often after short sleep tells me he steels himself with the assurance that he has to get up only once! If you're grumpy, why? Any ideas how the bright and chirpy can push the gruff and grumpy over the 7am hump?

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I always think that at least I didn't wake up dead!!
Posted by Tomato Plant, 22/09/2009 10:07:23 AM, on The Herald
melatonin, seratonin, dopamine and probably a few more - all some sort of mood regulator. Probably all mimicked by various types of narcotics - ahh so that why the drug trade is so lucrative, legal and illegal?
Posted by metoo, 22/09/2009 10:07:33 AM, on The Herald
Please explain Jeff. Perhaps just a bad choice of words. I dont know if my wife would enjoy being called the 7am hump.
Posted by MizJasper, 22/09/2009 10:16:43 AM, on The Herald
lmao Mizjasper..... And a top of the morning to you all !! If you all don't like the 7am Hump , just roll over & pretend your asleep till 8am! ha ha Once a person is a morning crank, they will always be a morning crank!
Posted by The Real Tough Titties, 22/09/2009 11:28:35 AM, on The Herald
I seem to be the only Westerner not currently afflicted with depression - should I be depressed about this? And if I become depressed about my lack of depression, will I qualify for one of those disabled parking permits (as I also seem to be the only person in Newcastle without one)? Brain the size of a planet and....
Posted by Scott Hillard, 22/09/2009 11:38:43 AM, on The Herald
You're not on happy pills, Scott!
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 22/09/2009 11:47:42 AM
As with the tabacco industry, i believe this research has been funded by teenage lobby groups. It is an advantage for them to hide behind a medical/physical reason for being bone lazy. What about all the teenagers who at sixteen are getting up and sometimes at work at 6am, then when finished go surfing or sports training. It's a necessity thing Jeff, tell them to stop being soft and get up! :-)
Posted by Buell, 22/09/2009 11:59:44 AM, on The Herald
I'm told the medication only works if you take it EVERY day, Jeff. Hang on- I typically tell other people that....
Posted by Scott Hillard, 22/09/2009 12:07:35 PM, on The Herald
Advice to all politicians with "depression" - grab a Kleenex, Princess, and weep into it while you draw your lifetime indexed pension after you resign mid-term. The second last Premier of WA resigned with "depression" and estimates of a +$1mil pension. How many of us can jump into that safety net?! And three months paid leave to get over depression for Mr Robb - HAHAHAHAHAH! Oh, the mirth. How should have taken his 'little black dog' for a walk in the morning - that would have brightened him up
Posted by Worker Bee, 22/09/2009 12:22:45 PM, on The Herald
More Baby Boomers crying about their lot. Oh boo hoo, "We bought our house when it was $5,000.00 in the 70s and paid it off in a few years" [oh, but interest rates were 18%!] (*yawn*). "My super has dropped from $2 million to $1.9million", "A Gen Y tenant in one of my 4 investment properties didn't pay the rent one week." "I retired at 55 and can't get my gold handicap down." BOO HOO HOO! Why don't you harden up - never heard any of the Depression era folk whine like this!
Posted by Gen X [again], 22/09/2009 12:31:16 PM, on The Herald
Depression only affects westerners who have time to sit about and think about this stuff. As if Mfufu would have time to worry about being depressed while trudging 5kms get putrid water from the well to mash the grain. We are a tiresome lot.
Posted by Another excuse, 22/09/2009 12:39:21 PM, on The Herald
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