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Self-funded disadvantage

There's no free car registration for their 37-year-old car, no discounts on their electricity bill, no free fishing licence for Ted and Margaret, who are the subject of my column in The Herald today. And if the Rudd Government has its way, come the beginning of July there'll be no Commonwealth Seniors Health Card. And while the $900 freeby about to be distributed to Australians earning more than they do, there won't be a solitary cent for them.

The problem is that Ted and Margaret are self-funded retirees. Throughout his 40 or so years as a fitter and turner in Newcastle industry and her decades raising a family Ted and Margaret saved for retirement, and when he stopped working 17 years ago they invested their savings in the stockmarket. They didn't splurge on travel or a sprawling mansion so they'd qualify for a part pension. No gleaming four-wheel-drive for them - they're still driving the car they bought 20 years before Ted retired.

The Rudd Government is about to include their small superannuation pension in the income test for the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card, which will push their income over the limit of $80,000 a year and disqualify them from holding a card. The new test will cost many retirees their health card, the primary purpose of which is to provide access to the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme at a time when people need it most.

Adding insult to injury, Ted and Margaret are to miss out on the $900 bonanza - they're within the income limits but for reasons that don't appear to make sense they're disqualified because much of their income is paid as franked dividends.

Ted and Margaret are not crying poor. They are angry and bewildered that their efforts to provide their own income in retirement are dismissed so ungraciously and blindly by the Federal Government. Indeed, as Ted points out, if he or Margaret were in prison higher income limits would allow them to keep the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card.

Have Ted and Margaret gone wrong? Where?

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No offence to Jeff, Ted or Mergaret but if as an aged couple they still have an income of over $80,000 pa then I don't see why they feel they do deserve such benefits. How many families are being raised on far less and receive no such benefits. $80,000 is a big difference to the basic pension regardless of some of the other benefits.
Posted by demon_aus, 6/04/2009 4:28:56 PM
The change to the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card is only one more incident in the class war that started with the election of a Labor government. It's now tax the people who earn above an arbitrarily declared figure as much as possible while denying them as much government benefits as possible. The May budget will include even more disadvantages for Ted & Margaret and anyone else who managed to save during their working life.
Posted by Sherlock, 6/04/2009 5:28:38 PM
What some people don't seem to get is that self-funded retirees have SAVED for their old age. This means, simply, that they have foregone spending on other things they could have enjoyed during their earlier lives. And for this they are to be punished.
Posted by Chris, 6/04/2009 7:00:44 PM
sounds to me there doin just fine in this unstable financial climate, no financial burdens eg: loans ,morgage ,just the odd docs appointment and pharmasuticals to pay for. I am sorry for the unsypathetic stance but there was no complaints when super was pulling 15-20% plus a couple of years ago,just roll with the punches i say.
Posted by horse, 7/04/2009 7:43:05 AM
Agree with demon_aus - if they are on $80K pa they don't need our help. Congratulations and I salute you on working hard to make that income - but we have enough gobs on the public teat.
Posted by Mo Money, 7/04/2009 8:56:43 AM
Ted & Margaret haven't really gone wrong. They seem to have done ok, and should feel proud that they have carved out a reasonable, decent life. The people that taught them how to create and manage wealth (or failed to teach them, as is usually the case) could have done better. Really weealthy and sophisticated people hide assets in trusts etc. The people we call the Rudd Government, however, should hang their heads in shame. This is arch bastardry at it's most heinous. Hand out token dollars to mug punters who are going to buy Chinese junk at the local superstore? Sure. Honour and reward hard working people who know how to be frugal and do their bit? Nah...... TWO WORDS : VOTE LIBERAL.
Posted by StopPayingTheBludgers, 7/04/2009 9:10:27 AM
I think everyone over 65 no matter what their circumstance should have the Health Care Card, cheap public transport travel, rego, rates etc. They have done their bit and we should reward their efforts. Not too is discrimination.
Posted by Buell, 7/04/2009 9:23:37 AM
Possible axing of the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card is a major disappointment for self funded retirees. My husband and I have each contributed to taxation for 40 years; went without so we would not need to be pensioners. We draw from our Super half of that of Ted and Margaret. Furthermore, our savings have decreased in value by 45% in the current recession. We HOPE we will have enough money to live on for the rest of our lives. Missing out on the $900 is not a concern. Missing out on the ONLY monetary assistance we would have ever received, the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card is a BIG disappointment. An especially big disappointment when the Rudd Government did appear be socially aware. Governments don't last long if they upset a large group of people.
Posted by Lynne, 7/04/2009 10:10:51 AM
Go have a look ar K. Rudd's own website : www.pm.gov.au. Look at 'Latest News'. Headlines include *Remarks at Meeting with US Firefighters in Washington DC *Press Conference at the New York Stock Exchange in New York City *Joint Press Conference with Prime Minister Gordon Brown *Joint Statement with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown *Press Conference following conclusion of G20 Summit.......and on and on. While decent Aussies struggle to comprehend the insult of watching the Govt turn it's back on them, Rudd takes part in the "Latest World Tour of the Irrelevant Sycophant".
Posted by StopPayingTheBludgers, 7/04/2009 10:14:31 AM
Buell, get off the sauce - who is going to pay for it? "Whaaaaah, I paid taxes all my life and I can't get a pension/ health card/ toilet seat made of solid gold/ whatever." Tough. Yeah, you paid taxes - and you used roads, hospitals, schools, powerplants, other facilities paid for with those taxes. You weren't making deposits into a pension bank - that's called INVESTING. And anyone with any brains has been doing that for decades, because life on the aged pension has ALWAYS been crap. Where does this entitlement mentality come from? I'm aghast at the very idea of the taxpayer supplementing my retirement - no thanks, I'll pay my own way, and so should everybody else. Plenty of people in the pre-compulsory super era made the effort to put enough away for a comfortable retirement, so I fail to see what excuse the vast majority of people can offer. For those of my generation, there will be no excuse (other than catastrophic misfortune or disability). Government should set expectations in stone now - if you want to eat, be medicated, housed, clothed, etc when you stop working, bloody well start saving. As for the couple about to lose their precious card that is grafted from the taxpayer, TOUGH. The damn thing should never have existed.
Posted by Scott Hillard, 7/04/2009 10:34:15 AM
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