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Status on the bus

Are you the sort of person who catches a bus? Or are you the sort of person who drives a car? Even just my limited experience on a government bus in the Lower Hunter has established for me that there is a difference, such a difference that I found my one bus trip in recent years unsettling! Maybe it was just the suspension of personal space, the up-close-and-personal contact with generously proportioned fellow travellers, the intimacy with the largish woman sitting next to me on a bench seat much too short. Maybe it was, too, because I consider bus travel beneath me, and while I don't believe that, family members and friends like to labour the point.

A retired Hunter Anglican minister wrote in the Herald recently that the difference between bus travelling and car driving is a matter of status, social status, and few, I think, would disagree with him. Well, few who drive. But John Adam has an unexpected angle on the status. A person with lower status, he writes, is equal to those of higher status when they're driving, which is why so few people use public transport.

I say a bogan is a bogan behind the wheel or not, and that the reason more of us don't catch the bus is because a bogan is a bogan on the bus too! I think it is very likely to be status concerns that discourage many people from commuting by bus although not for the reason put up by Mr Adam.

When I caught a bus eight years ago, after I'd dropped my car off at a mechanical workshop on my way to work, I was struck by the fact the people seemed different from those I encounter in my neck of the woods and in the course of my days. Sometimes subtle differences, sometimes not so subtle, and I think of these differences in appearance and mannerisms as akin to dialects. I think, too, that we are unsettled by people of unfamiliar presentation or habit.

But is it status concerns that keep most of us off the buses? Is sharing a bench seat on a government bus beneath you?

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Seriously, I could not go the places I go, without my car. It's that simple really.
Posted by Kurri 'n Rose, 23/11/2011 3:49:21 AM, on The Herald
Have caught many buses in the course of my life.As a teenager...as a single mum with 3 toddlers...as a pregnant mum later taking my laundry to charlestown(no washing machine)...I don't mind it.I chat to the other passengers,No car to worry about and its associated costs.My husband has the car now and I live in a small town so I can walk to wherever I want.Now thats freedom.
Posted by sha, 24/11/2011 4:21:40 AM, on The Herald
Obviously your from Kurri.

The old rover motors won't get you to anywhere but cessnock or maitland.

Why bother?

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Posted by Kurt, 24/11/2011 4:41:25 AM
Travel to car service locations are about the only bus trips you might be forced to make if you drive.

Walking to a bus stop at this time could reveal medical and health issues that were disguised by having a car.

Posted by Laurie Brewster maclaurie@hotmail.com Video Skype aussie9999red <, 24/11/2011 5:21:17 AM, on The Herald
I drive my car because I can afford to and it is there when I want it, not at a pre-determined time.

Social status is irrelevant- I am sure people of higher socio-economic status catch a bus or train. e.g. City commuters etc. Equally, just because you drive a clapped-out Commodore with bald tyres, expensive sound system and 'my family' stickers, doesn't make you above a bus user does it?

Posted by Dave M, 24/11/2011 5:37:45 AM, on The Herald
That's one of the big attractions, Dave, getting in and going when we want to go. It doesn't seem to matter that once going we're delayed by heavy traffic.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 24/11/2011 7:57:12 AM
The main thing that deters people is the length of time it takes to arrive at a destination. In days gone by Jeff, you would have caught the old 206 in Hunter Street and arrive at your destination some 15-20 minutes later. Likewise, the 207 would terminate at Merewether Beach. Now you go somewhere like Charlestown, Kotara etc to arrive at your destination. Less buses and drivers, more for Pollies slush funds.
Posted by Miz Jasper, 24/11/2011 6:02:26 AM, on The Herald
My Husband and I are not inclined to take part in travel with the common folk, One has invested heavily in a range of quality means of conveyance, as well as retaining chauffeurs and the like.
Posted by EIIR, 24/11/2011 6:26:07 AM, on The Herald
I have no bus service out here . But When I lived in Kurri I used to catch the bus to BHP which was great back then as it was just us workers. Then they combined it with school kids and a little shit from Raymond Terrace High knocked off my wallet.

These days I only consider my own car as out here in the sticks public transport is non existent which is fair enough .

Although the last time I did catch a bus it was half full of feral bogans swearing and carrying on plus the stench.

Posted by Crazyivan, 24/11/2011 6:58:33 AM, on The Herald
Yes when a student I caught the bus and train a lot. So yes it is a social status thing, plus socio economic.

However I think if you lived in Sydney, the social status angle would be greatly reduced as even high paid execs catch public transport.

I am now a confirmed car person - except when in sydney and going into the rocks or the city.


Posted by leahkf, 24/11/2011 7:35:12 AM, on The Herald
A wide cross section of people are to be found on Sydney's buses. Very interesting conversations to overhear. Except for journeys within the CBD, these days my wife and I use the GPS to drive about in Sydney and it works fine.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 24/11/2011 8:00:17 AM
I rarely catch a bus in the Newcastle area these days because of the bogan element that seem to think they can do as they like,swear & carry on in a manner that truly offends me. Yet in Sydney I frequently use buses in the inner city, eastern suburbs and north shore and have never encountered the same level of offensive behaviour.Similarly the trains seem to be same with more bogans using the service north of Gosford than on the services south. An example, on Tuesday the 1.15pm service out of Sydney, the bogan pick up started at Gosford and by Cardiff ½ the passengers were bogans young & old.
Posted by cardiffresident, 24/11/2011 7:39:28 AM, on The Herald
On my most recent train trip, to Sydney, it was very early, perhaps 5.30am, and a fellow about 20 was harassing an African woman who was with a small child. There were just the four of us in the carriage, and I'm pleased for her sake I was there. I asked him to leave her alone, which meant that he directed his aggression towards me until he left the train somewhere on the central coast. Low life.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 24/11/2011 8:05:27 AM
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