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Tomatoes or not

The tomato season is approaching fast and even with urgency since the poisoning last month of millions of seedlings in North Queensland is expected to leave the fruit scarce and expensive until Christmas. Homegrowers like me will be even more smug this year, but I am, I'll admit, at crossroads. Straight ahead is a continuation of the organic battle against the destroyer of tomatoes, the fruit fly, and over many years it has been for me a losing battle. To the left is a fruit fly control that works, Lebaycid, and to the right is the despair of defeat and no tomatoes.

I'm at the crossroads because my different attempts at organic control have failed, or those that have worked to some degree have not worked well enough to warrant another bout of the disappointment. And exacerbating this is my grudging realisation that when I don't use poison to protect my tomatoes from fruit fly I actually buy tomatoes that have been coated in poison. The same goes for such as capsicum and eggplant. And while I don't have peach and plum trees because I don't want to spray them, I buy peaches and plums that have been drenched in spray.

My organic controls have been many and varied. I've tried pineapple spray, bait pots, sticky traps, bagging the fruit, netting each tomato bush and, with some success early in the season when fruit fly numbers were lower, the new bait Eco-Naturalure.

I may try a better design for the Eco-Naturalure bait stations, this time using two hinged boards in a device suggested by our Living Green journalist, Stephen Williams, and/or building an enclosure of fine mesh over the tomato bed.

I'd been toying with using Lebaycid because it works, no doubt about it. You spray the crop every week or two and, like magic, no grubs. Geez, it's a temptation, even though I know that Lebaycid's active constituent, the organophosphate Fenthion, is banned at any concentration in Europe, the US, Japan and many other countries because of its potential danger to humans. But not Australia, yet, so it must be all right then! The Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority has been moved by international concern to, belatedly, assess its approval of Fenthion. Still, an authority spokesman tells me that a decision is not expected until next year, and that allows us to squeeze in one more year of poison-coated but fruit fly-free tomatoes.

Must it be a choice between grub-laden tomatoes and chemical-laden tomatoes? Do you have a better way?

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You could move, there are some very nice fruit fly free areas along the Murray River and the Sunraysia shiren (Mildura area), OK just kidding but I do remember living in one fruit fly free Western township and a couple of years went by before I actually realised why. The council used to spray every known fruit tree in the Village wether you liked it or not. They just came in the back gate and sprayed away.(wonder how that would go down today) and i do remember some trouble free Tomato growing whilst there. It was a sort of competition really, like my tomatoes are bigger than yours. (Friday nights in the local always included tomato growing stories) The best tomato growing idea I ever saw was also in that town where this bloke used to put about 4 wire mattresses up over the beds with about a foot between each one and the vines just spread out over each layer as they grew - Don't know if he sprayed them or not but then Lebaycid spray has been around along time. I still use it...................and am still here.
Posted by Bush Bunny, 12/07/2010 8:03:07 AM, on The Herald
Yes, Lebaycid works, Bush Bunny, but it is beyond doubt that it is dangerous. We probably absorb much more of it than we realise via the fruit and veg we buy. I don't think we could begin to imagine the poisons on fruit and veg from China! There's no checking, btw, or so little that there is effectively none.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 12/07/2010 10:13:06 AM
Not knowing an ox heart from a gross lizzy or something like that, but what about geneticaly modified plants to repel grubs or is that a no no in the tomato world.
Posted by horse, 12/07/2010 9:05:37 AM, on The Herald
They'd be an undeniable temptation, horse!
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 12/07/2010 10:09:04 AM
Jeff, Since your blogs last year about growing Tomatoes, I have been seriously considering growing my own this year. I will be watching with interest this blog, because in my first year of growing my own fruit and vegies, i really don't want it to be a waste of time.
Posted by Nafe, 12/07/2010 9:34:58 AM, on The Herald
You just end up feeding the possums if you bother to grow any fruits. I am lobbying my State MP to allow the culling of possums that have invaded houses. It is not as if they will be missed at my place. They have the ability to teach their young how to lift roof tiles so the third generation must be stopped now.
Posted by Garry, 12/07/2010 9:51:33 AM, on The Herald
I grow veggies, Jeff ~ beans, peas, radishes, broccoli, herbs, onions, zucchini, horseradish, brussels sprouts, beetroot, carrots, leeks, kale, broad beans, lettuce, witlof, endive. All organically - no pesticides, apart from Dipel, a bio pesticide, which is generally very effective. I also plant LOTS of garlic, pyrethrum and marigolds areound the garden - they all help. I reckon it's almost at the point where you have to sow three times as much to get a decent share for the humans. I have to admit - my occasional rushes of blood regarding tomato growing have all resulted in utter failure, with the crops decimated by fly, possums, birds or fungal attack. It's so frustrating, because organically grown, vine ripened tomatoes are one of the great pleasures of growing vegetables. I'd love to have another crack, IF I could be confident of a reasonable chance of success. I wonder if a very fine mesh plus a liberal weekly spraying with Dipel would stand a chance?
Posted by Abundance, 12/07/2010 10:33:35 AM, on The Herald
I grow most of those, Abundance, and in the past year I grew horseradish for the first time for a long time. It's good stuff! I use Dipel, too, and it's very effective. It would reduce attack from the heliothosis caterpillar, which is responsible for the big hole in tomatoes, but would not have any impact on fruit fly.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 12/07/2010 11:01:13 AM
Jeff, I heard that the original tomato stock in QLD were drug addicts so they were compulsorily sterilised. Scott Hillard would be beaming with eugenic joy.
Posted by Dr Mengele-Tomato, 12/07/2010 10:48:27 AM, on The Herald
I've been following your tomato journey for as long as you have been writing about it. I used your recommended Eco-Naturalure with success so will continue with it. I currently have a couple of really healthy plants which came up from seed in the compost - they are heavily laden with fruit (still very green though and I suspect there may not be enough heat to ripen them. Still, they are in a very good north facing position so I will continue to hope. I'm tossing up the idea of putting a loose plastic bag over the fruit for a few hours each day to increase the heat.) I was wondering - if you grow your tomatoes in a screened area, how will the flowers be pollenated (I'm assuming that they need that?).
Posted by Carla, 12/07/2010 11:05:32 AM, on The Herald
Hello Carla. Tomato flowers are self-pollinating, and that can be encouraged by giving the flowering bush a shake occasionally. They don't need bees! You could try the bags, although I think the fruit will eventually ripen of their own accord. I will probably give eco-naturalure another go, using a different type of bait stations. Last year I used plastic upside down yoghurt containers.

How do you use the eco-naturalure?

Posted by Jeff Corbett on 12/07/2010 11:06:12 AM
Jeff - can you give us a bit more insight into your eco-naturalure trap ideas? I'm going to give this another shot.
Posted by Abundance, 12/07/2010 11:52:03 AM, on The Herald
Last year I used 1litre plastic yoghurt containers upended and nailed to the top of tomato stakes to protect the Eco-Naturalure from rain and sun, spraying the bait into them every week. I'd also spray the leaves of the bushes. This year I'm going to make a wooden contraption Steve Williams saw in a magazine. It's a piece of flat wood, say 20cm square, with a batten nailed from one side to the other at the top. Another 20cm-square piece of flat wood is attached to this batten using a hinge so that the top piece of wood can be lifted and the Eco-Naturalure sprayed onto the internal surfaces. The contraptions are hung about in the garden or nailed to stakes. The fly has access to the poison from the sides and the bottom, and the poison is protected from the weather. I'll spend a few hours in the shed and Knock up 20 or so, and I might even paint them green!
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 12/07/2010 12:11:11 PM
Do we honestly believe that the price of tomatoes will come back down after the next set of seedlings come though and the market has plenty again? Hell, our power prices went up ahead of the ETS, and thats been shelved... so, are the power prices coming back down? Both are silly questions, i know! Jeff, ive had limited success - its hit and miss, by baiting then with simple traps. Cider or juice in a small bottle, oil or detergent the lip, and in they go. Of course, the downside of that is, the more sources of interest you have for fruit flies, the more you will attract. At the very least it might help you have less of them in your tomatoes if you combine it with the netting?
Posted by Chris, 12/07/2010 12:14:48 PM, on The Herald
The problem with these baits, Chris, is that they attract the male fruit fly, not the female fly. We see a bait trap with many colourful fruit fly and assume that it's working well. Well, working well at trapping the male but not well enough, unfortunately, to remove males altogether. The Eco-Naturalure uses a special attractant to play on the female fly's need for a protein fix immediately before she lays eggs.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 12/07/2010 12:21:26 PM
Nothing beats Anna Bay Tomatoes, what you will find with the Anna Bay Tomatoe is that they are grown in a soil and sand mix and you will find that they are alot jucier than you the normal tomatoe grown in just soil... Serious Jeff they sell them along the main road to Nelson Bay just near the golfing range before the turn off to Anna Bay... Try them once and you will be hooked.. Try putting a plastic border around each plant, just make sure it is about 8 inches wide and bury only about 5 inches deep, don't use compost soil, as that breeds the worms bigtime..... One question Jeff, did you put matting under your planting area or netting around them? Growing vegies in the City are totally different to growing them in Country and Stephen Williams is right in what he is saying.. Meshing is the Go !
Posted by The Real Tough Tomatoes, 12/07/2010 1:23:39 PM, on The Herald
I netted them in a shroud of mosquito netting, TRTT. Nothing under the ground.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 12/07/2010 2:29:35 PM
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