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New figs finding not a sure thing: GM

17 Nov, 2011 03:00 AM
AN internal Newcastle City Council memo has warned that an ‘‘independent assessment’’ of the Laman Street fig trees would not necessarily outweigh its existing studies that say the trees are a risk.

The memo, sent by general manager Phil Pearce and seen by the Newcastle Herald, said a new report ‘‘[would] not erase the body of knowledge already in existence’’.

‘‘If the agreed arborist provided a report that dissented from the large number of independent and internal reports already received, council will need to consider what weight should [the council] and our insurers be expected to give to it,’’ he wrote.

Mr Pearce also raised a number of ‘‘practical concerns’’ with community calls to conduct another assessment or evaluation.

Save Our Figs vehemently disagreed with the comments, and said a comprehensive independent assessment would highlight serious flaws in earlier studies.

Save Our Figs spokeswoman Fee Mozeley said the group wanted to revive the process abandoned by the council in September, which included a desktop audit of the existing studies and a fresh risk assessment.

She did not accept that any new assessment would need to be weighed against existing reports.

‘‘International experts, such as [engineer] Mark Stewart ... have said the council misapplied the [risk assessment] method,’’ Ms Mozeley said.

‘‘If [flaws with the initial report] are formally acknowledged, then that body of evidence from the council would not carry the same weight.’’

She said ‘‘third-tier’’ testing may be needed to provide a more conclusive outcome.

A judgment on a Save Our Figs application for a court injunction will be handed down at 4pm today.

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Library closed yeaterday because that little draft blowing was deemed 'strong winds'.

Didn't even blow a fig leaf off, let alone bring down a whole tree.

Sillier, was that the fence that blocked Library access was under a fig.

Posted by edteech, 17/11/2011 4:25:10 AM, on The Herald
It seems that senior NCC officers are attempting to influence the outcome of the independent assessment of the Laman St figs.

It appears from this article that the NCC original assessment was seriously flawed & senior officers are covering their backsides to avoid responsibility for their misdeeds.

This is totally unacceptable behaviour.

Operation Beanstalk 'lops' the trees to a tombstone stump rather than 'remove' the trees as required by the NCC resolution.

Posted by Machiavelli, 17/11/2011 4:34:34 AM, on The Herald
In other words "New assessment a waste of time and money" or "SOF rejoices in wasting more of your money" would both be better headlines.
Posted by James, 17/11/2011 5:28:23 AM, on The Herald
Just chop them down already!
Posted by chop them down, 17/11/2011 5:37:51 AM, on The Herald
Global Warming

Climate Change

Newcastle Figs

There is a pattern of petulant behaviour here that is not based on any reality.

Sorry: they are based on reality - Political Reality.

Posted by GeorgeJ, 17/11/2011 6:04:57 AM, on The Herald
Surely this is bleeding obvious.....if you were an insurance risk assessor and you had several reports saying the risk is too great and one saying its OK.....who is going to underwrite that risk??? If Ms Mozely feels that this is not correct, then perhaps she can broker the insurance for NCC, but that's not how insurance companies operate. Their business is looking to insure things with little or no risk and then trying not to pay out ever. Its OVER! Move on and focus on the important things in life.
Posted by notafan, 17/11/2011 6:31:08 AM, on The Herald
The tree's will come down one way or another. Save our figs can go whinge to their mothers.

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Posted by Dm, 17/11/2011 6:35:00 AM
Perhaps since the Save our Figs Group maintain that the figs are perfectly safe they would be willing to sign a waiver assuming all liability for them, negating the insurance issues and allowing council to wash their hands of the whole affair. Anyone in Save our Figs interested in signing on?
Posted by Fargo, 17/11/2011 6:43:43 AM, on The Herald
fairrrrrrdinkum
Posted by Cookie Monster, 17/11/2011 6:48:15 AM, on The Herald
More detailed Specialist advice coordinated by experts in each relevant discipline of engineering is the only thing that can finally put the matter to properly to rest. Arborists like GP's are not experts in each of structures, wind loading analysis (detailed by 3dmodelling taking into account the suburb and local exposure), geotechnics and detailed statistical analysis for robust risk analysis.These are the skilled experts that design, place, secure and oversee wind turbines. They would have put the matter to rest long ago. Aborists and their craft will gain invaluable information.
Posted by Master Sgnt Bilko, 17/11/2011 6:49:03 AM, on The Herald
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