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Newcastle's cruise push

02 Jul, 2010 12:00 AM
THE push for a permanent cruise terminal in the heart of Newcastle is gathering steam, with authorities preparing to assess the cost and suitability of three shortlisted locations.

A state and local government reference group suggested Newcastle City Council's Queens Wharf and two state government sites, at Dyke Point and the old Pilot Station.

Councillors will decide on Tuesday whether to contribute $20,000 towards a feasibility study.

The state government is also expected to contribute $20,000.

Dredging, berth building and shore-side service costs would be assessed, as would potential revenue from port charges and leases.

Independent councillor Aaron Buman, who with Labor colleagues called for a feasibility study, said there was opportunity to increase the city's appeal as a destination and boost investment and jobs.

"A permanent cruise terminal built in the CBD would lead to greater investment in tourist accommodation [and] hotels and boutique ventures would follow," he said.

"Supplying more accommodation would lead to an expansion in other tourism opportunities."

A conference centre might be built with the cruise terminal, Cr Buman said.

P&O Cruises announced last month it would cut luxury liner Pacific Sun's 2011 Newcastle season from six cruises to four because of costs associated with temporary customs and terminal spaces.

Cr Buman said while economics influenced that decision, a permanent cruise terminal might have helped keep the extra cruises to Newcastle.

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Every day the trains cruise into the Newcastle Station. With a capacity of about 125,000 seats every week why would you even think about a cruise terminal that this year will only bring four ships and even less next year.
Posted by Bigfeller, 2/07/2010 8:02:32 AM, on The Herald
Don't really see the point of spending all this money. There was an article last week saying that the cruise company had cancelled 2 ships to newcastle due to money issues. I think that the money might be spent better elsewhere........... for example A BETTER PUBLIC TRANSPORT SYSTEM. Just an idea.........
Posted by Community, 2/07/2010 11:32:58 AM, on The Herald
to Bigfeller: You do go on about 125,000 seats every week don't you! As a tax payer, I am contributing to the cost of around 99% of these seats being empty, in addition to the cost of maintaining the eyesore facilities through the centre of Newcastle. For goodness sake, what up market-tourist would exchange a cruise ship for a grotty railway coach, risking having to share it with ferals?
Posted by Mac, 2/07/2010 12:24:25 PM, on The Herald
hey bigfeller where are all these people on trains coming from.
Posted by captain, 2/07/2010 12:26:19 PM, on The Herald
One must ask why all of a sudden P&O needs a permanent cruise terminal in Newcastle. Is it simply an agenda to get the tax payer to fork our millions so a commercial operator can benefit? Then after all the money is spent what guarantee do we have that the cruise ships will come. if there is a drop in demand or they find more profitable alternatives. The operators already knew what the costs would be operating from Newcastle and after a short period start bleating about cancelling ships as it costs them too much and demand has dropped off. This was despite a year earlier making a public statement that demand in the region had never been higher. Is it all because terminal costs in Sydney are too high and operators are looking for cheaper options? Does anyone seriously believe that this is going to make a difference to Newcastle' economy? Every idea that has been put forward in recent years has involved benefiting a third party at tax payer’s expense.
Posted by Why, 2/07/2010 12:27:33 PM, on The Herald
Bigfeller people only use trains because they have to, not because they want to. That is why there is 125,000 or what ever empty seats each week into Newcastle Station. The fact that you keep quoting this figure proves that this part of the rail line is grossly over serviced and therefore the number of services should be severly reduced immediately.
Posted by cardiffresident, 2/07/2010 1:48:36 PM, on The Herald
Caediffresident, it is people with the same thinking as you that created Sydney's transport disaster, you should try catching public transport and I am sure that you would change your mind, but the chances of that are slim. Try quoting figures on how many people use the bus or ferry, or how many people are sole occupants of cars, how inefficient are you car jockeys. The line needs to stay and be complimented by a light rail system so that passengers can catch the train/light rail as they please.
Posted by Mr Fixit, 2/07/2010 3:51:15 PM, on The Herald
It never ceases to amaze me how the people on this blog keep running down Newcastle, calling it a dump, calling it ugly falling down etc... the only area where this is the case is the West End and is the result of landlords there not maintaining their property. The rest of Newcastle is fine. As for a cruise terminal... we don't need one. Dyke Point is perfectly adequate. We can pick up passengers with the ferry, or with their own launch. The train service is fine, but needs to be integrated with other public transport. What needs to end now is the absurd notion that the bus service must compete with the train service, rather than an integration that would see both services benefit. Public transport use in Sydney is outstripping demand, but here in Newcastle where there has been criminal neglect of our public transport.. it has remained static on the trains and is falling on the buses. Get it together Jodi McKay... forget ripping up the line and get working on an integrated transport system for our town.
Posted by Zeke, 2/07/2010 3:55:17 PM, on The Herald
I fail to understand why some people can not read what is said and why they ignore the facts. I spose they just can't help being negative. My words were that the trains have a capacity of about 125,000 seats per week that certainly does not mean there are 125,000 empty seats! The reality is the cruise ship passengers are almost non existant. There are only four cruise ships this year with about 1000 shore visiting passengers each most of whom go the Cessnock or Nelsons Bay. We have about 5m people within 3 hrs of Newcastle by train and with fares as low as $2,50 why would they not want to come to such a magnificant place.
Posted by Bigfeller, 2/07/2010 10:58:19 PM, on The Herald
Cardiff Resident, if you cut the line, there will be gridlock and this was evidenced last week when the line was closed for maintenance. Is this what you want passengers from cruise ships to experience? How do you know people use trains because they have to and not want to, sounds like FOC crap. Where are your surveys on bus use, car use, ferry use etc. Youre figures as per usual are rubbery
Posted by Wake up Newcastle, 3/07/2010 6:31:54 AM, on The Herald
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