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Residents oppose suburban mosque

04 Sep, 2010 10:22 PM
Controversial plans to build a mosque at Elermore Vale could come to a head today when residents meet with Newcastle City councillors.

More than 400 residents have signed a petition against the development.

Chief among concerns were increased traffic, the effect on property prices and lack of community consultation.

Shaft Tavern owner Geoff Byrne said residents were worried their suburb would change.

‘‘We don’t want to end up like Lakemba where there are thousands of people going to worship shutting down the whole suburb,’’ Mr Byrne said.

Resident Chris Vale said he realised there was a growing Muslim population but did not want a mosque in his street.

‘‘I would be just as unhappy if a church was put up in the street – we don’t need the traffic problem,’’ he said.

‘‘Houses are going up for sale in the street already.’’

Councillor Bob Cook said he was attending the meeting to hear residents’ concerns.

But the council is not the consent authority for the development.

A Joint Regional Planning Panel will determine the proposal at a date to be determined.

Cr Cook said it was common for large-scale developments to go to a panel and the council would normally put forward their position.

Diana Rah of the Newcastle Muslim Association said she understood residents’ concerns but did not believe the mosque would bring high density traffic or affect property prices.

‘‘We gather at off-peak times. The main time for worship is Friday between 1pm and 2pm,’’ she said.

‘‘There will be some extra traffic and we have employed traffic consultants to get right into those details.’’

The proposed development includes construction of a mosque, a three-bedroom house, a funeral ceremony building, a two-storey car park and a community hall on a 8300-square-metre block opposite the Elermore Vale Shopping Centre on Croudace Road, costing $6million.

Development plans are on public exhibition until Wednesday.

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This fear of "Muslims coming to a neighbourhood near you" is revolting. As a Muslim who regularly frequents Newcastle for work, I am sick of praying at a park by the side of the road, because there is no proer mosque in the area. I have just as much right to worship in a proper prayer centre as a Christian, Jew or Hindu. I pay my taxes, work hard and obey the laws of the State. I am a tax payer and a registered voter, which gives me the same right as everyone else in this country to participate in all aspects of community and social life, providing it does not cause harm to my fellow neighbour or person. I hope they build this mosque. This extreme right wing attitude breeds hatred. It can come from Muslims and Non Muslims. We need more people to take a more reasonable and sensible approach and stand up for people's rights, regardless of their race, ethnicity or prejudice.
Posted by Mohamad, 4/09/2010 11:15:17 PM, on The Herald
Last time I was at Elermore shopping centre there was empty shops ... perhaps a mosque will attract Halal and other culturally-related traders - this would have to be a good thing for a suburban shopping centre ?
Posted by good for business, 5/09/2010 9:21:17 AM, on The Herald
What an exaggeration. It's hardly going to be like Lakemba! There are thousands of Muslims in and around that place, not to mention in Sydney generally who travel there to pray of whatever they do. I have to admit that I wouldn't want it near my house. I live next to a Catholic church where I can hear them singing and preaching on the weekends (and they are bad singers by the way). However, the church was there before me, so I can't complain too much - just turn on some music of my own. As for the mosque, maybe it wouldn't be as bad because they go to church during the day on Fridays (according to the article anyway). So it might be quiet on weekends when most people are at home?
Posted by Dean, 5/09/2010 12:09:58 PM, on The Herald
The results of your poll on this issue do not appear to be true, as at 7pm last night the NO's were way ahead!! Then suddenly at 10pm, the YES's were way in front. Something is just not right about your poll results. Everyone at the public meeting on Saturday were against this Mosque or any Church being built in that location. Why not offer some land out Minmi way for the Mosque?
Posted by Zoe, 5/09/2010 2:46:43 PM, on The Herald
As a lifelong Elermore Valer I can tell you Croudace Rd near the shops has always been a bottleneck, with parked cars and people turning into the shops. They could easily make it a clearway, problem solved. This is just xenophobia being stirred up by certain leafleters (who won't even identify themselves on their literature).
Posted by Dean Ross, 5/09/2010 3:14:08 PM, on The Herald
Having attended the meeting of concerned residents at Elermore Vale on Saturday, I believe that the Herald's poll figures, from more than 1700 votes, do not accurately reflect the feeling of locals, who are almost unanimously OPPOSED to this mosque. The poll figures are definitely NOT representative of the community which will be most affected by this proposal. The figures of almost 85% in favour and only 15% against the development are directly opposite to the true feelings of most of the people of Elermore Vale towards a mosque which is about to change the character of their quiet suburban neighbourhood. Anyone who was at the meeting at the Shaft Tavern on Saturday morning, which was very well attended and extremely vocal, will know that the majority of residents in this small close-knit community object strongly to the construction of a mosque and associated other buildings, which will be most out of place and unsuitably located in suburban Elermore Vale. We do not want a mosque in our community. Would you want one in yours?
Posted by Novocastrian, 5/09/2010 3:31:06 PM, on The Herald
We live in a wonderful country where Muslims can build mosques and at the same time others can protest about the suitability of that sort of development. There is many countries , in particular in the middle east that do not afford such freedoms to their people. As for the proposed development at Elermore Vale issues involving traffic needs to be addressed via way of developer contributions rather than leave it up to the ratepayers of Newcastle to pick up the tab at some later date.
Posted by cardiffresident, 5/09/2010 6:31:17 PM, on The Herald
It would be a great start if more people just went to church. Any church is better than no church.
Posted by Bigfeller, 5/09/2010 9:34:58 PM, on The Herald
Planned mosque for residential area, proximity to school,preschool,shopping centre,sporting facility on busy narrow road should render it a non-starter.Croudace Rd , an arterial road linking Lake Rd and Lookout Rd via McCaffrey Dr is used by ambulances to the John Hunter hospital,police,fire,general service vehicles,cyclists etc.The extra traffic for the mosque (hundreds of worshippers they tell us),traffic from their funeral building with hearses,mourners' cars,will make it a more chaotic road. Already it is difficult to get out of the shopping village, the soccer area, private driveways,and Garsdale St. The land behind residences along the road should never have been sold for this purpose.Mosques should be well outside residential areas and busy roads. The plans are not architecturally and aesthetically consistent with surrounding residences,too many structures, too close and too imposing. They need to look further afield.The NH poll was obviously manipulated by people with a vested interest in the mosque,by multiple votes and by urging outsiders to vote in favour of building it. There would NEVER be 85% support for it locally,and this poll is both unbelievable and invalid.
Posted by archimedes, 5/09/2010 10:06:52 PM, on The Herald
i drive this road often and the claimed traffic choas is exaggerated beyond belief. This propsal is set way back from the street and will have minimal if any impact on the surrounding area. All parking will be on site. Most of their congregation are uni students and a large proportion of them will get there either by car pooling or public transport. Their peak time is well outside peak traffic periods. Opposition to this is driven by nothing more than xenophobic attitudes, particularly towards Muslims.
Posted by fergus, 5/09/2010 11:13:24 PM, on The Herald
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POLL
Q: Do you support the building of a mosque in suburban Elermore Vale?

Yes
(84.6%)

No
(15.4%)

Total Votes: 2037
Poll Date: 03 September, 2010

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