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Right to privacy warning on Newcastle pub scanners

27 Jun, 2009 05:00 AM
THE Privacy Commissioner has warned Newcastle pubs and clubs that use identification scanners on patrons to be mindful of privacy laws.

Debate has raged over the topic since The Herald reported that the Cambridge Hotel, in Hunter Street, installed an identification scanner last week.

ID scanning was covered under the Privacy Act and pubs had to ensure secure databases and that personal information was destroyed quickly, Privacy Commissioner Karen Curtis said.

The Cambridge, Diggers clubs at Wallsend and Mayfield (formerly Ex Services Club) and Fannys of Newcastle nightclub use the devices.

Information is kept by the venues for between 24 hours and two weeks.

The eventual goal is to link all the Newcastle late-night venues to try to identify and restrict troublemakers.

Objectors have accused the pubs and clubs of Big Brother-style antics, citing conspiracy theories of Newcastle taking gradual steps towards becoming a police state.

But publicans maintain the information is destroyed unless the patron does something wrong or it is requested from police.

An online poll by The Herald showed that 66 per cent of readers were in favour of the use of ID scanners at Newcastle hotels.

Almost 34 per cent said the scanners were too much like Big Brother.

Readers further weighed into the debate on The Herald's website with many applauding the security measure.

"It could be you or one of your friends that is king-hit for no reason or one of your girlfriends ends up being raped after she had her drink spiked," Steven Kekovski wrote.

"With the help of CCTV (closed-circuit television) and these ID scanners, police are able to identify these people."

The first complaint about ID scanning was lodged with the Australian Privacy Commissioner in December 2001.

Complaints have increased in the past 12 months.

A study commissioned by the privacy office in 2007 showed that 18 per cent of Australians believed that it was acceptable for their ID to be copied or scanned when entering a hotel or club.

Eighty per cent believed it was acceptable to show ID.

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If you don't like it, don't go, simple as that! I think protecting the community is far more important than protecting an individual's privacy, particularly when the info is highly protected and then destroyed.
Posted by Toughen Up, 27/06/2009 10:30:31 AM
What a great idea !! CCTV in Newcastle would bring down the Thugs & Mugs mentality & have these people identified across the board.... The Minority is stuffing it up for the Majority who do the right thing by the Hotel & Clubs liquor policies.
Posted by Richard Walters, 27/06/2009 10:36:23 AM
Maybe we should have them for the worst hotels in the area for crime as well as the patrons.
Posted by Onlooker, 27/06/2009 11:34:40 AM
To quote former Sun CEO Scott McNealy - "You have no privacy. Get over it". I am in favour of recording IDs - if you do the wrong thing then you have reason to worry, otherwise, what's the problem? It might take a while to sink into the thick skulls of some drunk Neanderthals in Newcastle's pubs and clubs - but this is the way the world is headed.
Posted by punter, 27/06/2009 1:04:11 PM
Ok lets have a drinking licence and each time you purchase alcohol you have to display your licence and sign for your purchase Afterall we have driving licences, boating licences and fishing lecences so why not a drinking licence.
Posted by Bigfeller, 27/06/2009 7:53:27 PM
Showing ID for the the purposes of entering a drinking establishment combined with CCTV coverage would help eliminate underage drinking and persistent troublemakers, and therefore, should be compulsory. Appropriate interaction with other premises for this purpose should be allowed and approved by suitably qualified individuals. Toughen up says "If you don't like it don't go and nothing to hide etc" fair enough but once your details are scanned onto a computor they are open to any Hacker - anywhere - Identity Theft is costing billions of pounds in loss & prevention worldwide. I have no objection to showing ID for any purpose - to have it scanned - NO WAY
Posted by Beard, 28/06/2009 8:51:27 PM
Actually my brother was king hit in a night club and suffered a massive brain injury. We did not need cameras to capture this incident for the offender to be charged and prosecuted. The outcome was a far cry from what this young bloke should of received as punishment. My point is, you can make a TV show out of the footage you will have on any given night but once it gets to court the outcome is little more than a joke and no video can change that or return what is lost. I agree with Beard, no objection to showing ID, scanning, NO WAY!
Posted by newcastlefan, 29/06/2009 10:17:34 AM
yep have to agree... no prob showing it but scannin it? no thanks. Quite frankly some of the staff ive encountered working in "professional establishments" should really be scanned a bit more closely before employed!
Posted by crimes of hospitality, 30/06/2009 10:57:07 PM

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 ARGUMENT: Many people believe identification scanners are acceptable for security reasons.
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