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School road markings 'ineffective'

10 Sep, 2010 05:00 AM
PARENTS slammed the state government's $14 million "dragon's teeth" program in school zones, saying it failed to slow drivers down.

The NSW Roads and Traffic Authority painted lines of triangles on the approach to school zones in the Hunter during this year.

It was a response to concerns that motorists needed flashing lights to alert them to school zones.

The Newcastle Herald reported this week the zones could be missing their mark because of the number of schools that operate outside or on the edge of zone times.

Newcastle and Lake Macquarie District Council of Parents & Citizens spokeswoman Clarice Hamling said the dragon's teeth project had failed and flashing lights were needed everywhere.

"They keep saying dragon's teeth work but they don't," she said.

"The public who do not have kids at school do not recognise dragon's teeth the same way they would flashing lights."

Ms Hamling said some school zones were too short and others poorly marked.

Behind Jesmond Public School some teeth markings are obstructed by parked cars.

A NSW Roads and Traffic Authority spokesman said dragon's teeth were successful in the United Kingdom and Singapore on approaches to towns and villages.

He said they would investigate the parking situation at Jesmond.

"Schools zones without flashing lights are being selected for the new flashing lights technology rollout based on safety criteria," he said.

NRMA Hunter director Kyle Loades said they supported dragon's teeth because it was "better than nothing" but what was really needed was flashing lights.

"A combination of dragon's teeth, flashing lights, signs that are fluorescent is the best overall method," he said.

Mr Loades said of 3200 schools in NSW only 10 per cent had flashing lights.

At current rates the government's lights program would take 28 years to complete.

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Maybe we ought to start teaching children how to behave near roads, and how to cross safely instead of leaving the onus totally on drivers to avoid schoolchildren. You know, the old STOP LOOK LISTEN idea.
Posted by JB, 10/09/2010 6:17:45 AM, on The Herald
Newcastle drivers in particular those that drive through the School Zone (40kph area) around Charlestown Primary School show little or no respect for the children or adults that use the two marked crossings in that area. They have no idea of the road regulations showing complete contempt., especially to those those trying to enforce and assist our children. I will say that without the School Crossing Supervisors who do a magnificent job at that school,there would be serious injures if not deaths caused to our children through the negligence and stupidity of a lot of drivers. There is only two is only two speeds for that area FAST and if they have to stop,.
Posted by choc, 10/09/2010 8:44:51 AM, on The Herald
What a ridiculous poll question! I slow down because the sign says "School Zone 40 km/h"
Posted by Ian Robson, 10/09/2010 8:56:05 AM, on The Herald
The real answer is for schools to have drop off zones within the school grounds. All school entrances should be from back streets and not main roadways.
Posted by Bigfeller, 10/09/2010 9:32:19 AM, on The Herald
i agree that the dragons teeth dont work... i didnt even know why they were put on the ground for... i think they should be the bumpy stuff that u get when leaving the freeway... that will slow people down... people who dont have kids at school need to be told what they are as they just look like cool decorations atm
Posted by hmm, 10/09/2010 9:32:40 AM, on The Herald
Flashing lights seem to be the best. Some drivers ignore everything.
Posted by Concerned Resident, 10/09/2010 9:58:03 AM, on The Herald
There is a big difference between UK town outskirts and School zones. The Dragons teath would work to allert drivers the change in speed limit BUT the timing of the speed limit change is what gets most drivers. The flashing light system allerts the drivers that the zone of 40K is current, the dragons teath are just paint on the road and just another slipery surface hazzard on the road, cyclists and motorbike riders need to avoid.
Posted by Nafe, 10/09/2010 10:06:39 AM, on The Herald
If a motorist can't see a yellow 40 followed by dragon teeth, then they SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DRIVE. It makes them stand out a lot more. Having said that though, students at high schools are old enough to know how to cross a road. At high schools, what about the responsibility of students to cross the road correctly? If we must school zones, they should only start from the school boundary to the end of the school boundary, and ONLY on streets were the school is, not what we have now, with school zones extending way pass schools. And some roads have school zones, yet no school is on that road.
Posted by N/Flyer, 10/09/2010 10:54:35 AM, on The Herald
Totally agree with you JB
Posted by lorjud, 10/09/2010 11:37:11 AM, on The Herald
A lot of the problem with drivers either not noticing or ignoring signage around schools, or indeed anywhere on our roads, is all too often they are bombarded with TOO MUCH INFORMATION! An old adage may apply here, namely: 'Familiararity breeds contempt.' As an exercise, next time you drive your kids somewhere, doesn't matter where to, have them hold a competition as to who counts the most road markings and signage. You will be surprised, and hopefully startled, at just how many there are for a driver to take on board. When does a driver get to just watch where he/she is going? We DO NOT need so much signage! If we had markings and signage down to a sensible level, then perhaps the problems with drivers around school areas would lessen and save on lives and sorrow. Drivers, take more care! As to local councils and the RTA, do you really need so much signage to help justify your existence?
Posted by Seven of eight, 10/09/2010 12:06:42 PM, on The Herald
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Q: Do ‘dragon’s teeth’ road markings make you slow down in school zones?

Yes
(55.8%)

No
(44.2%)

Total Votes: 251
Poll Date: 09 September, 2010

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