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Warning of Williamtown RAAF Base restrictions if Port Stephens councillors grant concession to Medowie family

15 Feb, 2010 04:00 AM
BUREAUCRATS have warned Port Stephens councillors the operations of the RAAF Base Williamtown could be restricted if they grant a concession to a Medowie family who want to build their house without soundproofing measures.

But the residents, stung by a change to noise guidelines, say it's time the council stood up to the RAAF about planned flight paths that classify their property, and hundreds of others in Medowie east, as noise-affected.

Mark Strain and Roz Hann were told by the council their property was not noise affected and had planned to start building at the same time as noise contours were redrawn late last year.

Their land was reclassified, forcing them to add insulation worth $25,000 to the plans.

Mr Strain said yesterday the family had "lost faith in the council process" after council staff recommended their application to build without soundproofing be refused.

That's despite the couple's property being just 50 metres inside the noise affected zone, and a Department of Defence draft Public Environment Report that said soundproofing was not necessary.

Mr Strain described the situation as "ridiculous" yesterday.

"The council resolution from December 15 required the staff to come up with a solution that enables exceptions for people in our situation" he said.

Mr Strain and Ms Hann stressed yesterday they were not complaining about aircraft noise, which will only affect them for eight hours each year, but the rigid council approval process that would force them to install costly and unwarranted noise insulation.

They said the council should have told the Department of Defence that noise contours for the joint strike fighter aircraft that place thousands of Port Stephens properties in the noise affected area were unacceptable.

"Why isn't our council sticking up for the community?" Mr Strain said.

An extraordinary council meeting will be held tomorrow night to discuss the development application, which council staff say could set a precedent for future developments.

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Another exercise in the great area of hypocricy. These people, pay less to buy cheaper into the area on price and affordability and then want the whole country to lose one of its frontline defence bases because they didnt know jets flew in the area? Either that or plain stupidity didnt alert them when being originally shown the property, they did not recognise the sound of a commercial jet or fighter plane? Base has been there over 60 years - these people a figurative 5 minutes.
Posted by Pogo, 15/02/2010 7:29:03 AM, on The Herald
Everybody that purchases land near the RAAF shoudl be made to sign a big red sheet of paper that states they acknowledge that they are buying near a RAAF base that operates 24 hours a day, they understand that Jets are noisy and that any complaints about the noise will simply be laughed at.
Posted by Brando, 15/02/2010 7:53:25 AM, on The Herald
Sure, what good is the sound insulation, if when you step outside you're deafened by the very people who are suppose to protect you. They can carry out the same exercises off shore without bothering anyone. So why not do it? Too hard for the RAAF maybe? Work Cover won't even allow workers to be subjected to even half the sound level of RAAF noise emissions without hearing protection. So how come the RAAF get away with subjecting such a huge populace to these noise levels? Unacceptable! Have a nice day.
Posted by El Zorro, 15/02/2010 9:27:57 AM, on The Herald
Anyone, other than an aeroplane / jet plane enthusiast, who builds a home within fifteen or twenty KMS of an airport or Williamtown only gets what they deserve. RAAF Williamtown has been there for a long time and I would rather have it there than a bunch of people who want to build a home near the jets and then come out and complain about the noise.
Posted by Proud Novocastrian, 15/02/2010 9:52:21 AM, on The Herald
RAAF Williamtown has been there since 1941 and jets have been based there since 1951. In other words, fast jets have been operating out of Williamtown for nearly 60 years. How old are the people complaining about the noise?
Posted by Jim, 15/02/2010 11:41:39 AM, on The Herald
Seems to be a common thread going on here. People are more interested in maintaining the operational base as is, than listening to a bunch of whiners, whingers and opportunists. Memo El Zorro: Stay inside if you dont like it. Sue if you didnt know or were not told the base was there if you even live in the area and jets were there first and how would you fit a holden or ford muffler to the planes. The fighters are front line attack units, not politically correct shoosh machines
Posted by Pogo, 15/02/2010 12:23:08 PM, on The Herald
This comment is in relation to the majority of other comments clearly written by very ignorant people who just don't get the issue! IT IS NOT ABOUT AIRCRAFT NOISE IN GENERAL! THE ISSUE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT LAND RECLASSIFICATION AFTER PROPERTY PURCHASE, AND THEN BEING FORCED TO INSTALL COSTLY NOISE INSULATION. I can't quite understand why people who make stupid comments just don't get it!? When did people stop trying to understand what they read rather than just making up their own story?
Posted by Read to Understand, 15/02/2010 1:10:25 PM, on The Herald
Yes, the RAAF Base has been here since 1941, a lot longer than most residents in the area. But this is a rather weak argument. Think about it, the aborigines homeland, Australia, was inhabited for 60,000 years prior to Europeans arriving and forcibly taking over! So regardless of who was in Williamtown first, the fact is that Defence has changed noise contours and it is now costing families much more to build their homes. Believe it or not, people love living here. So, why not give these families a choice of whether they want the noise insulation or not??
Posted by Interesting Parallel, 15/02/2010 1:25:04 PM, on The Herald
Only eight hours of noise a year! Council tell the department of defence about their concerns, practice land targets of shore, i love this story.. and thats why i would not live near an airport. ps; Mr Strain council is sticking up for the community by leaving the base as is, actually bring more planes and support staff.
Posted by What the!, 15/02/2010 2:03:05 PM, on The Herald
A lot of you people are ill informed and ignorant to the facts. The location of Williamtown RAAF is not an issue. Its the location of the weapons range at Salt Ash. No other armed service in Australia has imposed itself so blatantly on its neighbours as the RAAF has. No one complains about the Navy, because they do their exercises at sea and are not disturbing anyone. The army do their exercises in the bush away from the main populace and do not disturb anyone. I even remember being ordered to hold fire on the rifle range so a mob of roo's could cross the range. Not so the RAAF. Why???? If they are front line attack units put em' in the front line then. Have a nice day.
Posted by El Zorro, 15/02/2010 2:24:04 PM, on The Herald
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LOUD: An RAAF Hornet at the Williamtown base.
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