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Cameras and road speeds

13 Jul, 2010 05:00 AM
IN last month's budget papers, the state government announced that revenues from fines - most of them levied on the owners of motor vehicles - were set to rise by $137 million this financial year to a record $428 million. A similar increase is predicted for 2011-12, with fine income likely to reach $570 million.

The budget papers say most of the extra money will come from a mobile speed camera program and a 5 per cent increase in the number of speeding fines, which it hopes will encourage safer driving behaviour. The government is so confident that its "road toll response program" will work that it's predicting a $90 million fall in fine revenue between 2012 and 2014.

The real-world implications of this fine program were unveiled to drivers at the weekend with the news that each mobile speed camera will be able to film and fine as many as six vehicles a second.

The sheer number of vehicles being monitored by the fleet of vans is sobering enough but it's another aspect of the program - the Roads and Traffic Authority thinking about halving the fine leeway to just 4km/h over the speed limit - that is generating the most controversy.

Roads Minister David Borger says speed was a factor in nearly half of the state's road deaths last year and he warns motorists that if they "speed by one kilometre over the sped limit they could be caught".

Despite the minister's enthusiasm, this is one area where zero tolerance is not the answer. The only way to avoid unwarranted speeding fines under such a regime would be to drive substantially below the sign-posted maximum.

If this is what the government wants the population to do, then it should lower the speed limits.

Otherwise, it must direct the operators of the camera to maintain the existing leeway at the widely accepted 8km/h.

And if the government is to convince the public that safety and not treasury income is its main concern then motorists should be warned of the presence of mobile speed cameras as they are with stationary cameras.

No doctor in town

THE chronic shortage of doctors in rural and regional Australia appears to be worsening despite steps taken to counter it, with Clarence Town joining the long list of towns having to make do without a GP.

The public record reveals a substantial number of inquiries around Australia over the past decade aimed at arresting the decline in rural practitioners but successes appear to have been few and far between.

The reasons for the shortage are clearly complex and are as much about urban views of rural life - and the supposed disadvantage that goes with it - as they are about the changing nature of medicine. Even so, doctor-less towns like Clarence Town and East Gresford are hardly in the middle of the never-never.

As distasteful as the idea might seem, if asking doctors to work away from the cities does not bear fruit, then a further step - requiring some period of service as a condition of a Medicare licence - might be the eventual outcome.

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I don't understand why everybody seems to want to defend people who break the law by speeding? I have no problem with the government using the new mobile cameras. I feel no sympathy for anybody that gets caught speeding and they should be fined - and if the government make a $100 million out of it good for them. And to inform people about where the cameras are is a stupid idea. People will just slow down at the camera and speed up after it again. If they don't know where it is and they get caufgt a few times and have to pay a few hundred dollars in fines it make get into their thick skulls to slow down.
Posted by Leon, 13/07/2010 11:46:01 AM, on The Herald
Leon is spot on, can't agree more. The whingers need to start behaving on the road (probably elsewhere too), stop speeding, start driving with care (instead of carelessness) and take responsbility - otherwise get off the road. Lastly a message for those who think it's un-Australian to not flash to warn others of police activity - you might be warning someone who could needs to be taken off the roads who just could be the potential cause of a future fatailty otherwise. Let the authorities do their job and remove high risk drivers (and their cars) off the roads.
Posted by pot calling the kettle, 13/07/2010 1:54:11 PM, on The Herald
Well, there's two RTA sock-puppets. Your tax dollars at work.
Posted by Scott Hillard, 13/07/2010 6:09:25 PM, on The Herald
I disagree with Leon and Pot calling the Kettle because speed cameras cannot be in backstreets or areas where drivers can constantly speed and be assured there is little chance of seeing a Police Car that alone a Speed Camera Vehicle. We should all observe the rules of the road but all this Goverment and probably most money hungry groups can see is the poor old motorist being sucked dry once again. If the Government gave us the Roads that we have paid for the road toll would be less, If rogue motorists were dealt with properly by the Legal System and there were more police checks on the roads taking the time to check for defects , licences as well as Drugs and Alcohol.
Posted by Pedal to the Metal, 13/07/2010 7:39:56 PM, on The Herald
The previous 2 comments are typical of the ignorance prevailing in road safety matters. Has it not occurred to you that what you define as speeding is responsible for at most, 5% of all accidents. Have you ever heard of the 85th percentile? Has it not occurred to you that countries with much higher limits than ours have a lower road toll? You are obviously people who lack basic car handling skills & common road sense & you some how dictate to the rest of us what constitutes good road sense? If you are incapable of handling a vehicle on a modern freeway at speeds that it was designed to handle in good conditons then you have no right to be on the road, never mind dictating to the rest of us. Our limits are deliberately set artificially low so our nanny state can rip us blindly and people like you are totally blind to the fact that it has not only made no difference to the road toll, but has now become so ridiculous that it is now become part of the problem. Slow down? You must be crazy. Rather wake up, learn how to drive properly & pull your fingers out!
Posted by RippedOff, 14/07/2010 2:32:35 AM, on The Herald
leon and pot calling the kettle I really hope you two don't blow up when you get fined $100+ for doing 52pkh in a 50 zone. What is needed here is common sense, no motor vehicle that is currently on the road accurately displays the vehicles correct speed, even GPS has a lag time and most are accurate only to within a few kph. Also accidents almost always have other contributing factors, Yes speed under certian conditions does cause accidents, but an accident can happen when a person is abiding to the law and road rules, it is the nature of the risk of the activity. WHAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPIATE is to heavily penalise those drivers who constantly break the law: ie TALKING on mobiles whilst driving, driving under the influence, SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES, RUNNING red lights, TWITTERING, TEXTING, DRIVING unregistered, uninsured, unlicenced etc, etc. Speed camers are only revenue raising. PROFESIONAL COMPREHENSIVE DRIVER TRAINING IS WHAT'S NEEDED MOST, TO STOP, THE BAD HABITS OF ONE GENERATION BEING PASSED ONTO THEIR CHILDREN. Safest drivers are "L" platers Most dangerious drivers are "Red P" platers. And get POLICE out on the road booking people for breaking the road rules.
Posted by 666, 14/07/2010 12:09:52 PM, on The Herald
When Radar was first introduced in NSW (mid 1970's?) the Police Minister (if I recall correctly) put out a statement along the lines that the public had no need to worry about Radar because it would be set to trigger at 16kmh over the limit and as a result `only real speeders had anything to worry about' . I wouldn't want to be a police officer being monitored and recordered in their vehicle by big brother (to keep them honest?) and being compelled to pull over drivers doing 5 kph over the posted limit and dealing with the considerable driver angst at possibly losing their jobs for not having a license for exceeding the posted limit by as much as someone walks. I believe 16kph over the posted limits hould be the trigger `so only real speeders are fined' The problem is, it isn't about pinging dangerous drivers it's about the revenue.
Posted by regn, 14/07/2010 8:36:54 PM, on The Herald
a couple of years ago during sept/oct school hols, the rta put PATROL cars out on the roads to be seen. The accident rate dropped dramaticly. Think about it, every day now, as a sales rep, I see people doing U turns over double white lines, going ahead at left turn only lanes, spot lights on during clear days and night, because drivers know there are no police on the roads they have no respect for the road code
Posted by pgf62, 15/07/2010 11:04:55 AM, on The Herald
I agree with RippedOff and 666 and wish to add that if the Brainstrusts in the NSW Govt and the RTA [difficult search there] came up with some real ideas instead of off the planet Speed Cameras and Speed control devices for cars motorists might start to believe these group. Maybe the Bureaucrats are being paid far too much is the reason that we do not have decent roads or enough police enforcing the law on our roads.
Posted by Pedal to the Metal, 15/07/2010 1:47:17 PM, on The Herald
@ Leon and pot calling the kettle, I hereby decree that you are never to put your opinion in any editorial comment in any newspaper in the land. If you do so you will be fined $534 and have two weeks to pay. Failure to pay will result in having your licence suspended and possibly your car impounded. That’s the law. Now go and do as you are told. Just because something is the law does not mean that we can’t object to it. Being booked for going over the limit by four km/h is absolutely absurd. Going over a large bump in the road, or a slight hill can cause that. Face it Leon and co your government is greedy.
Posted by GYa Guns, 15/07/2010 6:51:14 PM, on The Herald
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