Defence releases a noise forecast that indicates the amount of noise pollution the RAAF will create over the community. This noise pollution is real. Check out the Defence TNIP and see for yourself. You won't. Defence can create whatever noise they like, wherever they like, whenever they like with impunity. And this has been the case since 1941. The Hawk and Hornet Environmental Impact Statements both state that Defence has a role to assist the community with the new noise pollution created, including compensation. So the JSF comes along, twice as loud, and puts more excessive noise over the community. It is Defence noise pollution that causes the difficulties. In a landmark case in the Land and Environment Court, the judge indicated that the noise should be attenuated at the source before the receiver is asked to pay out for attenuation. RAAF have a new very loud noise source and the responsibility for attenuating it rests with Defence, not the community. I'm sure most people just can't comprehend how simple this is. Defence are not dumb, they know full well that when they release a new ANEF council is obliged to use it. There you go, Defence wipes its hands of its pollution.

A closer study of Defence Materiel's Public Environment Report, Oct, 2009 will reveal that Defence knew full well of the consequences of its ANEF 2025 contours and acted with 'intent' by referencing AS2021, which Council enforces according to its interpretation of NSW Legislation. No citizen or public company would get away with such a deceptively flawed document as the PER, which deliberately omitted new development to soften its environmental impact -- some 4000 new homes flying in the face of the ETS spewing our carbon emissions because they are locked up and sealed with air conditioning continuously running to make acoustic insulation viable. To back up their iniquitous PER document, Defence has been putting pressure on Councillors to stringently enforce AS2021 -- in effect getting Council to do its dirty work. Don't let Defence off the hook so easily. They are in this up to their grubby necks. But I do agree that Council needs to take a firm stand and come out fighting for the residents instead of their run-and-hide tactics in indemnifying themselves against litigation. Brian Coleman SaveOysterCove.com.au

My home is directly under the flight paths to the Salt Ash Weapons Range. We have lived through 3 ANEFs and I can assure you it is not a "forecasts of the noise". It is real. Council in 1983 was advised by an ANEF and approved a DA on our land. Since then our land is now un inhabitable as far as the Defence Dept new ANEF 2025. They promised then, as good neighbours to do the right thing. Here we are nearly 30 years later and they have changed the goal posts again. It is not the Council but the Department of Defence who are acting like "dictators"

Residents totally agree with Mr Coleman's comment . Most agree that there needs to be an independent inquiry done on these dealings between defence and council...... then we will all find out whose to blame for thousands of property owners losing everthing they have worked for all their lives. Good on you Mr Coleman and Oyster Cove residents and we totally support you guys and support the saveoystercove website! Keep it up!!

Why wouldn't all Australians support Save Oyster Cove. Deals done between Port Stephens Council and Defence, robbing thousands of ordinary ratepayers of their land and home values with no Compensation, yet still charging them Land Taxes and full rates for homes and land virtually unsellable. Feds, State and Council blaming one another, go get them Save Oyster Cove and Port Stephens ratepayers.